WyoTraveler
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Just because the TT is labeled 4 season doesn't mean much. I just bought the Jayco Jayflight 19RD with the heated enclosed under body. I like it a lot and have camped in 10 degree weather. Still a few problems with the grey water pipe that sticks out from under the insulation. I added aluminum tape to that pipe, a 3 ft heat tape, and wrapped with insulation with duck tape over top. It should work out even better in cold weather.
I looked at the Artic Fox, and Nash TTs. Nice trailers, inside and out, but I didn't see much difference in their under body insulation than my Jayco has and they are a lot more expensive. I like the larger holding tanks on my Jayco.
Unfortunately I had to drive from NW Wyoming to Washington state to get a good deal on the Jayco. I did enjoy the trip and camped the way back in 10 degree weather in December.
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magnusfide
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BroncosFan wrote:Aliner "all season" Does not have heated holding tanks. Lance and Escape offer 4 season models.
Both the toilet (which is portable) and the freshwater are located inside the heated space of the Aliner cabin; no holding tank heating needed. To keep the camper warm, my neighbor uses a small ceramic heater with plenty of comfort in single digits of the Cascades. After all, these campers are favorites in Iceland.
To keep our older two season tt warmer we put up quilted curtains and used outdoor carpet scraps for the floor. It was very comfortable in the single digits and we didn't have to spend a lot of $$ on a Nash or other expensive model. Ingenuity is part of the adventure too.
At the end of the day, if you prefer to live in 80ยบ temps in the dead of winter, no camper is going to do that for you unless it's parked in Texas or Florida.
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BroncosFan
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The op will have to let us know what they mean by 4-season, Manufacturers usually describe dual pane windows and heated tanks as the starting point. Lance escape bigfoot northwood and the others mentioned have this. Cheers.
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WyoTraveler
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Northwood's Artic Fox and Nash do have heated tanks, like my Jayco. However, they also have the grey water pipes and valve sticking out from under the insulation, Just like my Jayco. The grey water valve froze on my Jayco in 10 degree weather. No damage, I just opened the valve to drain and nothing came out. Ice cube blocking the exit. Once thawed all was OK because all the tanks are heated. That grey water pipe sticking out and the valve needs to be protected. Hopefully my mod will correct the problem.
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Although it doesn't solve the freezing pipe issue...
An economical solution to just heating the trailer (without burning through a ton of LP) is an Eheater. http://www.eheat.com/.
Of course you need a 110 source.
I installed one and it kept the trailer toasty when it was about 40 outside. I can't wait to see how it handles colder weather.
It is low watt and silent, all you need is a bit of open wall space.
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Our new Fun Finder X-139 is very well insulated -- very comfortable in cold weather. Tanks are not insulated, but I added reflectix to the tanks -- seems to help. We have camped in 20 degree weather several times with no problem. Below 20, you would have to have full insulation and heat tape to keep the tanks from freezing.
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magnusfide
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dragonmyst wrote:Although it doesn't solve the freezing pipe issue...
An economical solution to just heating the trailer (without burning through a ton of LP) is an Eheater. http://www.eheat.com/.
Of course you need a 110 source.
I installed one and it kept the trailer toasty when it was about 40 outside. I can't wait to see how it handles colder weather.
It is low watt and silent, all you need is a bit of open wall space.
Interesting. How many amps does it draw?
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Magblue10
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I know you said 4 season but how about a HTT it is light and you could get a 20ft or less but then pop out to much larger and as someone said the 30000btu furnace will heat it up quick, plus they have the insulated things that go over the bunks. just a thought
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BroncosFan
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This says the amps. I sure would like to try one.
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WyoTraveler
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The heat tape I just installed is "Easy Heat" It uses 7 watts per foot i.e. 21 watts or 175 ma. If you use it on plastic pipe the pipe needs to be wrapped with aluminum tape first to distribute the heat better. Fiber glass over the top to keep the heat in. Do not run the heater unless there is grey water in the pipe. My plan is not to run it all the time. I would only use it a couple of hours prior to wanting to dump the grey water to make sure that portion of pipe was thawed.
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