CT_WANDERER
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I know what PI units do as I have it one. However some times people are not sure what EMS are when posting. That is why I was asking trying to clearify what was being looked for.
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CT_WANDERER wrote:I know what PI units do as I have it one. However some times people are not sure what EMS are when posting. That is why I was asking trying to clearify what was being looked for. That's because the dumb sh### at PD don't know what an ems is. It is not a surge protector.
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I have THIS EMS system im my fiver and it works great. It has save my electronics at least once that I know of. It is very easy to hard wire in yourself but if you are unsure of your electrical capabilities get an electrician to do it for you.
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You don't manage an rvs electrical system by shutting it down which is all the PD does. That is not management unless you consider a manager someone who fires everyone when there is a problem.
The ems was around a long time before PD incorrectly started using the term for there surge suppressor. I have nothing against the product but they never should have called it an ems. Look at the confusion it is causing in this thread, unbelievable!!!!
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Hurricaner wrote:You don't manage an rvs electrical system by shutting it down which is all the PD does. That is not management unless you consider a manager someone who fires everyone when there is a problem.
The ems was around a long time before PD incorrectly started using the term for there surge suppressor. I have nothing against the product but they never should have called it an ems. Look at the confusion it is causing in this thread, unbelievable!!!!
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See this is why I was trying to get clearification on what the OP was looking for. Terminology is great if we all us it the same way.
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Hurricaner wrote:You don't manage an rvs electrical system by shutting it down which is all the PD does. That is not management unless you consider a manager someone who fires everyone when there is a problem.
The ems was around a long time before PD incorrectly started using the term for there surge suppressor. I have nothing against the product but they never should have called it an ems. Look at the confusion it is causing in this thread, unbelievable!!!!
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PI (I don't know how you get PD from Progressive Industries) calls it an Electrical Management system because it does more than surge suppression. It also protects against over and undervoltage conditions, off standard frequency, and miswired pedestals (shut down is one heck of a lot better than damage). PI has been calling their units EMSs for a long time and this thread is the first I've seen complain about it. I've also have never seen it cause confusion before. I have seen what you are calling an EMS also referred to as a Load Management System (which is a much more accurate description than EMS).
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Quote: I have seen what you are calling an EMS also referred to as a Load Management System (which is a much more accurate description than EMS). The load-shedding device manages the available energy, so I don't see why one word better describes it than the other. It's just unfortunate that two very different RV electrical devices are called by the same acronym. The Intellitec web site does a good job of defining the name and acronym up front http://www.intellitec.com/index.php/products/Energy_Management/, while the Progressive Industries web site does not define it at all. The only way I could find the name for their EMS was to download a manual, so IMO PI, by omission, is encouraging the wrong name to be associated with their device. I'm not the only one, at least one RV equipment dealer http://www.rvupgradestore.com/Progressiv........ment-System-240Volt-50amp-p/emshw50c.htm calls it by the wrong name (2nd line of description). I think it's great that the ambiguity was recognized in the 3rd post of the thread. Many other threads go a lot longer with people talking past each other until the terminology is nailed down.
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Hurricaner wrote:Progressive industries strikes again. No it is not an EMS.
Sam ,Progressive makes both surge protetion and ems - portable and built in units, I like the portable 50 amp if I change trailers i keep it is was a few $$$
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Hurricaner
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OK, I think we have beat that horse to death but just for clarification PI calls the unit an electrical management system not an energy management system so they never should have been brought into this thread.
The big difficulty in retrofitting these units is the AC units which usually can't just be shut off and turned on by turning power on and off, you have to have some control capabilities. Other than that it is just a matter of tying into the existing panel and circuits which may be easy or darn near impossible depending on the location.
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