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DOTLDaddy

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Posted: 05/29/12 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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I wonder if the owners of the puppy the dog killed are making a complaint- in my former neighborhood, a rotweiler that was aggressive to other dogs in the neighborhood was removed when the owner of a dog the rottie almost killed went to the police.
That may be a bit of a sticky wicket, as I believe all the owners in question are brothers.


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It's a sticky situation all around, and the best thing is if someone can convince them that this is a serious issue and to get the dog checked out and make a decision from there.

It isn't that I minimize the risk to the kids, but a phone call to CPS from a family member is pretty much the "nuclear option."


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Code2High wrote:

It's a sticky situation all around, and the best thing is if someone can convince them that this is a serious issue and to get the dog checked out and make a decision from there.

It isn't that I minimize the risk to the kids, but a phone call to CPS from a family member is pretty much the "nuclear option."


Totally agree. I think the OP has the information necessary and the tools to deal with this.


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I had my say. They took the dog to a vet who told them what they wanted to hear. Story over. I pray they've made the right decision.

Thanks so much, to all who responded to this thread. I don't know any place I could have possibly had a more caring and informed bunch of folks to respond.


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mikestock wrote:

I had my say. They took the dog to a vet who told them what they wanted to hear. Story over. I pray they've made the right decision.

Thanks so much, to all who responded to this thread. I don't know any place I could have possibly had a more caring and informed bunch of folks to respond.


You don't say what they decided, but from your tone it sounds like they're keeping the dog, possibly after having been reassured by the Vet as to the dog's fitness.

One can't help but wonder if they gave the Vet the facts of the killing of the other dog. It seems strange that a professional would offer his neck to the "liability axe" in such a circumstance....


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I too question whether they gave the vet the whole story.

My only suggestion to the OP would be, if possible, to volunteer to pay for a few private lessons with a trainer. Since you're volunteering to pay, tell them you'll do all the arranging and find the trainer yourself. See if you can find a dog training club in the area. If not, usually vets' offices, humane societies and rescue groups are good sources for trainer recommendations. Make sure the trainer knows the whole story. My goal here would be more that the trainer could make your son understand the seriousness of the situation rather than making any huge change in the dog in a few lessons.


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I had forgotten that all the dog owners were brothers. Maybe mikestock's other 2 sons can help him convince the aggressive dog's owner about the danger. After all, if and when the brothers have kids, those kids will be in danger too ( not to mention the brothers, their wives, etc etc.) I surely wouldn't want to be around that dog myself. Maybe it would help if mikestock's 2 other sons and he all talked to the 3rd son together- said something about not being comfortable having the dog around their families and dogs.

I also like Pawz4me's suggestion.

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The vet they took the dog to did know that the primary reason for the visit was the killing of the puppy.

Feelings about the situation are getting edgy between me and my son and his wife. I feel that I have done all that I should for now.

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Look folks, there is a whole lot of information here we just don't know even though Mike has given an excellent description of the situation. I don't think any of us has a crystal ball to know what the future holds.

Mike is in a tough situation, he's given his opinion to his son and provided information. Any further action could result in life long consequences within this family, as could other actions by this dog.

Ultimately, Mike's son is an adult and has the decision to make using the best information from people who have first hand knowledge of the dog and the situation. At best we can speculate from our experiences and our perceptions of the situation.

Even though I deal with this type of situation pretty frequently (though not quite as extreme consequences), I certainly don't feel competent to offer life and death advice about this dog without evaluating him first hand and getting a complete behavioral history. At a minimum, I do feel it is extremely important to always provide supervision when this dog is with young children and to avoid situations with other animals until some of these behavioral issues become resolved.

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dturm wrote:

Look folks, there is a whole lot of information here we just don't know even though Mike has given an excellent description of the situation. I don't think any of us has a crystal ball to know what the future holds.

Mike is in a tough situation, he's given his opinion to his son and provided information. Any further action could result in life long consequences within this family, as could other actions by this dog.

Ultimately, Mike's son is an adult and has the decision to make using the best information from people who have first hand knowledge of the dog and the situation. At best we can speculate from our experiences and our perceptions of the situation.

Even though I deal with this type of situation pretty frequently (though not quite as extreme consequences), I certainly don't feel competent to offer life and death advice about this dog without evaluating him first hand and getting a complete behavioral history. At a minimum, I do feel it is extremely important to always provide supervision when this dog is with young children and to avoid situations with other animals until some of these behavioral issues become resolved.

Doug, DVM
An excellent summation, and at this point I think all we can do is hope and pray for the best outcome for all involved.

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