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Posted: 05/29/12 01:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've been towing my 32' Crossroads Bel Air for a few years now with my 2005 Chevy Express 3500 van. I have the 6.0 L with the 3.73 rear (7700# capacity) and my TT weighs 5700 dry so I think I am in good shape weight wise.

I never had any real issues at all, I have recommended this van for towing to many people of the years.

This past weekend, we were towing from Baltimore to Raystown Lake. We followed google maps (bad call) and found ourselves on some pretty steep, winding uphill grades. On one, we were behind a school bus and never had a chance to build up any kind of speed.

Towards the top of the hill, my temp guage started to move up quickly, eventually triggering the "check dash guage" warning chime and light just as I was able to reach a pull off spot.

I put the van in park, cranked the heat, and in a few minutes the guage returned to normal and on we went.

I noticed the remainder of the trip that we had to do crank the heat proactively as we went up any kind of hill with a decent grade or length to keep the temperature from spiking again.

We took a better route home, avoiding many of the hills, but we still had problems on the hills we had to climb.

I also felt like I had a bit less power than normal, but I may have just been overly sensitive to what was going on.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

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Posted: 05/29/12 01:46pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Immediately check for a stuck thermostat.

Then... check to see if coolant is full (when it is cold).

Then check for other things.

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Thanks!

I am going to have the trans fluid and coolent flushed and filled and will have them check/replace the thermostat at the same time.

I am just hoping I haven't done any damage...

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If you are going to do that, on a vehicle that old, time to dump the old upper and lower etc. hoses.

Also -- is there a special flush for your vehicle?

Don't go to a place that use a machine to suck out the coolant and replace.

Go to one that does a proper chemical flush including the heater.


I assume you have a thermo clutch fan?

Or electric?

Or something else?

Check that the fan is coming on properly.

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Posted: 05/29/12 02:06pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Check for a lazy O2 sensor. It can be in spec enough to not turn on the check engine light, but cause the van to run with a slightly out of whack A/F ratio which can cause heating issues and low power.

Also, when is the last time you cleaned the radiator out? Bug guts, dust, and debris eventually clog it up. It might be time for it to be removed and cleaned. Also check the inside of the rad. Drain a little coolant and check that the tubes aren't clogged with scale.


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If you did not hear the fan come on, that is where to start. Possibly a water pump failing also.


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our check engine did just light up indicated a bad O2 sensor. Sorry I left that out.

Good call on the hoses as well!

I appreciate all the feedback!

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Posted: 05/29/12 02:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

fornarog wrote:

our check engine did just light up indicated a bad O2 sensor. Sorry I left that out.



Before you conclude it is the 02 sensor.

Reset all the computers, leave it overnight (cooled down) then reconnect power, clear the code, and see if it comes back right away.

If it doesn't it could be just a sensor that needs a recalibration.

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NewsW wrote:

fornarog wrote:

our check engine did just light up indicated a bad O2 sensor. Sorry I left that out.



Before you conclude it is the 02 sensor.

Reset all the computers, leave it overnight (cooled down) then reconnect power, clear the code, and see if it comes back right away.

If it doesn't it could be just a sensor that needs a recalibration.

Want to clue us in on how to recalibrate an O2 sensor?

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Posted: 05/29/12 03:50pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Additional information needed.

When is the last time you had heavy duty use (like sustained towing) before this trip?

Was vehicle operated as a daily driver like predominately light duty short trips for a while?

If this last trip is the first heavy duty tow in a long time --- recalibrate the sensor.

Follow directions above to reset the computers.

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