CindyBR777 wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm gonna step on some feelings and I do not intend to so please hold your mud slinging down to a minimum. But I really would like to know why the State Parks systems does something. We go to a State Park that is one of the nicer ones here in Texas. It has alot of FULL hook-ups, has a decent amount of elec/water and then they have a very large tent area. Ok here is my question and I'm already sweating fixing to ask it....but here goes........
Why do the state parks let the tenters camp in the FULL hook-up area? Please do not think I'm predjudice against tenters, because I believe they have just as much fun as I do in my RV. But this park is so so hard to get into, and if you want a FULL hook-up site there are none, because they are all taken up with tenters. Now why would you need sewer if you are in a tent? And actually, the tent campground is super nice! I really don't get it?
Could someone explain without having to give me a good lashing because you think I'm against campers? Please and thank you!
When I tent camped, I too paid for a full hook up site. I wanted water and electric. There is none in the tent area. I am sure this is why you see tents in full hook ups where you are.
I see this complaint a lot, and really can't wrap my head around why anyone believes that this is something tenters should not do. Reserving early, especially around holidays, is the key to getting the site you want. Even if there were no tenters using that, I am sure if the place is busy others are still going to get there before you if you are not reserving early. My rationale is that this is not an issue of the campers in tents taking spots, but more of an issue of folks waiting too late to reserve. I reserve my trips at the first of the year for the entire year that fall on holiday weekends or during the busy season. I know that if I don't, I'm either not getting the spot i want, or no spot at all.
I know you have a lot of disclaimers, but my post isn't bashing, mine is simply to say, they have every right to that spot. If I was still in a tent, I'd be pretty upset if my money couldn't get me a full hook up site because in the sweltering heat in a tent, I want to have a fan and other comforts electricity provides and I don't want to walk to the bathhouse for water.
In a nutshell, the CG and parks provide those sites for people to use for recreation. What they are camping in is irrelevant.
wbwood wrote: I tow the line on this. While I can agree that the park doesn't check what is camping there or care what's camping there. All they care is that spot is filled.
However, as a business sense, it makes no sense to have a tent in a FHU site. I can understand E/W site better. But they are shooting themselves in the foot by taking up spots for potential RV's who could go in that spot. We would think that there will be a lot of RV'ers who don't come, because there are no FHU sites avaialble. But, then again, they might not get anough traffic there and of course those running the place don't want the headache or burden of having to keep up with that sort of thing...
But why would the CG care if the RV'ers didnt get some of those spots? It is probably to their financial advantage as well, since tenters are going to use a lot less water and electric during their stay. NO A/C's running, probably just a fan or two and a light, and a lot less water.
Quote: I think your claim of their "everblown sense of entitlement" is way off base. There are no rules against them renting any spot they want (nor should there be). In fact, if anyone has a sense of entitlement, it seems to be you. How dare they take up a spot that you could have parked your RV in.
I've always been able to get a hook-up site at that particular CG by making reservations relatively far in advance. I just feel for other RVers who drive the loop looking to choose a site and they're taken up by tenters.
I can easily change my attitude though: I got mine, who the heck cares about anyone else?
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Quote: I think your claim of their "everblown sense of entitlement" is way off base. There are no rules against them renting any spot they want (nor should there be). In fact, if anyone has a sense of entitlement, it seems to be you. How dare they take up a spot that you could have parked your RV in.
I've always been able to get a hook-up site at that particular CG by making reservations relatively far in advance. I just feel for other RVers who drive the loop looking to choose a site and they're taken up by tenters.
I can easily change my attitude though: I got mine, who the heck cares about anyone else?
Why feel sorry for those other RV'ers? They can also make reservations early. The people camping in those tents are people who want to enjoy their camping experience the same as someone in an RV. The way I look at it is if I am doing this last minute, the let down is no different if it is a tent in the site, or an RV. Both indicate "site taken". It is what it is.
Escargot wrote:
I'm thinking too many have an overblown sense of entitlement. I think they believe the rules, and common consideration for others, is just meant for everyone else.
Escargot, you might want to consider the irony in your post. It is you who seems to have the sense of entitlement, that your money and rig should spend better than someone with a tent.
JJBIRISH wrote: I am not sure I see a problem…
Why do the biggest pushers take all the FHU sites… I mean they have huge honking tanks and large battery banks… they don’t need those sites for a weekend stay…
Full hook ups should be set aside for only ultra lights with small tanks…
Why should a older Prevost without slides take the wider sites??? There should be a rule…
I am not sure why units with rear LR and rear picture windows take back in sites with a view of the back of the trailer in the next loop over…
Why do people without kids take the sites closest to the play ground… then complain about the kids…
Lots of questions to few answers… I demand answers
I am sure it is just a conspiracy…
Yep. IF one sits and thinks about it, there will be a lot of things going on that will get up their crawl. But, fair is fair. Reserve early folks and you will have less disappointment.
If I wanted to look at it from that point of view, I could get mad that the luxury RV's always seem to get the super sites with the concrete pad, cable tv and fire rings. My TT fits in those sites just as nicely, and I enjoy them just as much as the guy in the huge diesel pusher. They are almost always filled with the same rigs/people every time I go. They must be booking two years in advance at a time. But I don't get mad, because hey, they are booking it in advance. I just feel lucky the times I do manage to secure a super site.
One might say - why are the TTs and RVs with bathrooms getting spots close to bathhouses, when I have a pop up and need that convenience?
There are just way too many issues to consider and a CG is not going to get caught up in all that mess.
2oldman wrote: As long as they'll let me put my 34' 5er in a tent site, I'm cool.
X2...also, if you go to that park and the RV sites are full they tell you "no room at the inn", it should be the same when they run out of tent sites....No room available. Tents should not be occupying RV spots. JMO
Quote: Escargot, you might want to consider the irony in your post. It is you who seems to have the sense of entitlement, that your money and rig should spend better than someone with a tent
Not really. I guess I was thinking about elderly RVers who depend on electric for medical equipment and such. No biggie.
The "entitlement" accusation was based on the coupling of tents without using the electric hook-up, which was curious and seemed selfish, at least until some other commenters on this thread explained other possible and plausible reasons for doing such, which I hadn't considered and, which made sense, without the addition of direct personal attacks I might add. The most disturbing was seeing them throwing their garbage into the grassy wooded area of their site after each meal. I mean, if the site is so desirable, why muck it up for others?
What is the difference if a tenter is in a full hook up? They paid the full amount. We have lost alot of places we wanted to camp because we did not make reservations soon enough. If you want to camp at some particular camp ground then make your reservations sooner. We have a large class A and it is our fault for not making the reservations in a timely manner. Seems like some on this site feel that they should have privelage over tenters because they have class A's.
Most CG I know of ask a few basic questions when reserving in advance or just dropping in: Q1 How big is you rig? Q2 How much power do you want? Q3 Do you need/want sewers? Q4 How long are you staying?
It is hard to put a 38' MH/5W in a 30'x 20' site, so I can sympathize with any one slotted to the overflow lot when small sites are available for small rigs. If the CG doesn't care about site assignments, I guess I can go down the road to some place that does care. They can make the money any way they can, but they won't get my business or my return business. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Just my two cents...
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We used a full hookup site as a tenter,so that we could use the elec to charge our boat batteries, and to have the conveniance of nearby water. We did feel bad about taking up a site for an RV, but we paid for the options. It was a win-win for us and the CG.
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2oldman wrote: As long as they'll let me put my 34' 5er in a tent site, I'm cool.
X2...also, if you go to that park and the RV sites are full they tell you "no room at the inn", it should be the same when they run out of tent sites....No room available. Tents should not be occupying RV spots. JMO
What silly ideas…
these are public parks and anyone has the same right to a site… restricted only by safe use and cost of amenities wanted, and of coarse reservations…
When you buy a 40 foot vehicle it is understood it won’t fit in a 25 foot site, that is a self imposed restriction… but if you buy a 14 foot scamp it will fit on the smallest site to the largest… that is also understood and often a reason for the selection… your use or experience at a public park shouldn’t be defined by the camping equipment you use outside the basic restrictions and rules of the park…
Unless tents are excluded from a site by rules they have the advantage in choice… while the RV has its advantages and many comforts they have the disadvantage of site size and availability…
I have seen how to many of you drive and to even entertain the idea that it would be safe to allow you to take over the tenting areas that would be ludicrous…
These are all considerations that we need to take into account when selecting our equipment and the risk we take for not reserving early…
We all have the option of camping in a tent if this is a major problem… but if it is a problem for us, it not the other guys responsibility to solve the problem for us…
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