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Posted: 05/30/12 02:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I purchased a 2011 5.7 L Tundra a month ago and now looking for either a 5th wheel or TT. My intended driving in the west will encounter 20 mile upgrades and downgrades occasionally. My inexperience gut feel is to look for an rv with gross weight that is 10% under my tow capacity to allow for a capability cushion.....so I don't tax the tow vehicle on the grades. I am looking for any Tundra user to give me some user feedback if this thinking is right or not. Thanks.

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Posted: 05/30/12 02:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Personally, I would go for even less. JMHO


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Very good thinking, getting info up front. I don't have a Tundra, but tow capacity questions are a constant here. Assuming you have the 5.7l engine, I found these numbers, which you probably already have. Towing capacity (2), without/with Tow Package (lb.) 6600/8100.

If you have the tow package and then work close to the 6600# number, it will let you slide over a bit, load up your truck with people and stuff and cruise down the road and up the hills safely and comfortably without abusing your new truck.

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Posted: 05/30/12 03:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Welcome to the Forum...
My advice is to pay more attention to the PAYLOAD numbers for your Toyota (especially if you are thinking 5th wheel) rather than just looking at tow ratings.

Check how much payload your truck has left over after you load it with yourself, passengers, gear, etc and then make sure you have a good cushion after you find out what the loaded tongue weight or pin weight is of your trailer.

tongue weight of TT rough estimate about 13% of the GVWR of trailer
pin weight of a 5th wheel rough estimate about 20% of the GVWR of trailer.

Good luck with your choice. You are being smart by doing the research BEFORE you buy.


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Yes Welcome,
I agree with downtheroad in that you'll most likely be much happier with a TT which uses up much less payload over your drive axle. Plus you'll have the entire bed of the truck for camping stuff.
There are 5er's but very few that won't overload your new baby.
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Depending on which Tundra you have, the towing capacity could be as much as 10,000#. Even if you had the 10K Tundra, 9,000# is too much of a TT to tow; that's 10% under your max towing capacity.
You can find many TTs with a GVWR of less than 7,000-8,000#, IF you have the 10K Tundra.
As mentioned, towing a fiver is limited as your Tundra's payload is too low for all but the smallest fivers.


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As mentioned payload will be your limiting factor. Skip the 5'er and get a TT. You pull more weight for a TT (using less payload)as opposed to a 5er which you have to "carry" more of in pin weight. Because of this you can get a larger trailer than 5er if that makes sense. (ie you'll handle an 8000lbs TT easier than an 8000lbs 5er)

IMHO if you keep the TT gvwr under 8000lbs you'll never have any issues towing, mountains or otherwise. Of course you still need to consider payload as an 8000lbs TT will easily have a tongue weight of 1000lbs+ leaving you between 400 to 800lbs of payload left for people depending on the model of Tundra you have.


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Payload, payload, payload! You need to reconsider the 5th wheel. The Tundra is much better suited for a TT because of it.


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Posted: 05/30/12 08:58pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks to all who responded on 5-30-12 to my towing question of Toy Tundra towing. Your response was of more value than the 20-or-so salesmen I've talked to over the past 3 months. I'm appreciative.
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