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CND SuperCrew

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Posted: 05/31/12 04:15pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

You can go over to Dieselplace.com and in one of the forum areas leave the VIN and in a short time one of the moderators will reply with a complete hx of the truck. That was my deciding factor when I bought mine.


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Someone mentioned the "pump rub" and I'm not positive which years were affected but something to put on the todo list.
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NewsW wrote:

GrandAZ wrote:

Ok, so I see the 06 D-Max is highly recommended. Now take a look at the info and let me know if this changes anything....

- 2006 2500hd Duramax with 117K miles:
-- Stock

- 2003 2500hd Duramax with 104K miles:
-- Stock

- 2002 Ford F250 7.3L with 78K miles:
-- 6" lift and 4 linked, coilover, front end on King remote reservoir shocks, Garrett GTP38R, 4" MBRP exhaust, Gauges, Performance valve body, Diesel Innovations Chip, GPS, Stereo, TV (all the interior bells and whistles)

- 2000 Ford F350 7.3L with 123K miles:
-- New Shocks, New Brakes, New tires, Gauges, 48 Gal Transferflow Tank




Need a more comprehensive examination than that to uncover mods, tuners, etc.


I'm not new to the diesel world by any means, and I am pretty good at recognizing the stock from the not. I also take a code reader with me to everything I look at, I know it will not pick out and identify tunes, but still better than nothing.

What are you suggesting? Your saying something different needs to be done but then leaving me hanging with no solution or suggestion....


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IMO the 02 7.3 is the only one that I would consider. They rest have to many miles on them for me to spend that kind of money.

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Hands down, 06 LBZ. This is as good as it gets for reliability and mileage. I bought mine new 5 years ago, and now I have 90k miles on it. Never been stranded, never had any serious problems. I've had the ISS, which is the intermediate steering shaft replaced twice under warranty. Seems to be fine now. The allison trans. is the best thing since sliced bread. If this truck is bone stock you just found a gem. The allison can only hold about 100hp more than stock without grenading. You'll love the d-max in stock form. Plenty of power, and very, very quiet. Occasionally you might be able to hear the turbo winding up, but you can't tell you are driving a diesel most of the time. The 7.3 is a great engine but the trannies are another story. Anything lifted or with larger tires I would stay away from. These trucks are for pulling, and lifting them completely destroys the towing ability and usefulness of the truck. I would buy my '07 classic again in a heartbeat, this truck is not for sale!

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IMO the 02 7.3 is the only one that I would consider. They rest have to many miles on them for me to spend that kind of money.


The 02 7.3 is the most expensive out of them all because of the mods it has....

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Dmax Pump rub

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GrandAZ wrote:


I'm not new to the diesel world by any means, and I am pretty good at recognizing the stock from the not. I also take a code reader with me to everything I look at, I know it will not pick out and identify tunes, but still better than nothing.

What are you suggesting? Your saying something different needs to be done but then leaving me hanging with no solution or suggestion....


A code reader won't recognize a tuned ECM you'll need a tech II. Before GM woke up to the fact in '07 and started storing data in multiple places a HP/TQ reading from the ECM/TCM will tell you without a doubt whether it was tuned or not.

A 1/2 shop charge and a tech II from the dealer will put it to rest.

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GrandAZ wrote:

NewsW wrote:

GrandAZ wrote:

Ok, so I see the 06 D-Max is highly recommended. Now take a look at the info and let me know if this changes anything....

- 2006 2500hd Duramax with 117K miles:
-- Stock

- 2003 2500hd Duramax with 104K miles:
-- Stock

- 2002 Ford F250 7.3L with 78K miles:
-- 6" lift and 4 linked, coilover, front end on King remote reservoir shocks, Garrett GTP38R, 4" MBRP exhaust, Gauges, Performance valve body, Diesel Innovations Chip, GPS, Stereo, TV (all the interior bells and whistles)

- 2000 Ford F350 7.3L with 123K miles:
-- New Shocks, New Brakes, New tires, Gauges, 48 Gal Transferflow Tank




Need a more comprehensive examination than that to uncover mods, tuners, etc.


I'm not new to the diesel world by any means, and I am pretty good at recognizing the stock from the not. I also take a code reader with me to everything I look at, I know it will not pick out and identify tunes, but still better than nothing.

What are you suggesting? Your saying something different needs to be done but then leaving me hanging with no solution or suggestion....



Don't know when the break year is for GM when they introduced a lot more functions on the computers. On the Fords it is 2005 model year.

But there should be a few dealer tech accessible tricks that will tell you if it has ever had a tuner.

e.g. there should be a reading for maximum torque the transmission measured.

Also a way to know how many times the stored values have been written to and --- how many were not done by the dealer and hence have to be tweaks.

Not at the dealer, but at the manufacturer's level, there is no hiding from them that a vehicle have ever used a tuner.

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One more reason to consider the '06 DMax:

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