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Ram4Sam

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Beacher50 wrote:

Why the 5.9 over the 6.7?

Looks like I'll being searching for a low mileage 2008 with a exhaust break,Dodge doesn't make the quad cab with a diesel anymore.


There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 6.7.....it pulls like a locomotive. The only advantage of the 5.9 is that they are older and have less emission equipment on them and the usually get a little better mileage. As with any of the newer diesels, regardless of the brand, the emission equipment can be a bit finicky.

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Beacher50 wrote:

Current TV is 2008 Silverado crew cab, 5.3L, it was fine in the Midwest, but now that I'm out here in the true west, I'm not really happy with its performance up and downthe grades. I'm towing a TT, Grey Wolf, 30ft, 6500lbs dry.

I'm debating going to a Cummings diesel ,or at least Hemi, or GM 6.0. What is the torque difference between the 3?

One constraint I have is vehicle length, I can't go past 230 inches total TV length, it won't fit in the garage, and it must fit.

Dodge quad cabs will fit.


New or used? If used, a pre-2008 (5.9) Cummins or a pre-2007.5 Duramax. New? Gas (5.7 Hemi or GM 6.0) all the way.


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Beacher50 wrote:

Ok thanks, and sorry for the Cummings vs Cummins.

LW wants a diesel, has she is uncomfortable when the chev is cranking on steep grades. (I'm one lucky dude is all I got to say about that).


Not as uncomfortable as she will be when she gets the repair bills for some of the new diesels! The Hemi, Ford's V10, or the GM 6.0 will happily run for hours at 3500-4500RPM pulling hills without a hiccup.

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the cruising range is another plus, it seems like I'm always pulling over for fuel in the Chevy, 25 gallons at 9 mpg or less means lots of stops. plus I usually fill up at the quarter tank mark.

I've also noticed some rams pulling TT and TV with aux fuel tanks in the bed, are these connected to fuel system, or so they have to be pumped into the main tank? It wouldbe great to capitalize on low fuel prices when they're present.

Are there any pitfalls to be wary of when considering used Cummins?


Lift pumps on older trucks, engines modified by idiots that broke parts, deleted emission stuff that will mean you cannot register it in Kalifornia, and people demanding premium prices for junkers.

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Lastly, being from the upper Midwest I've developed a comfort factor having 4x4' now that I'm here in The Sacramento area, I'm not I really needing itt, LW likes 4x4 too, but admits she hasn't seen much snow about the valley. And we don't off road.


Personal choice...I plow with my F-350, so 4WD is not optional for me.

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And, what about transmission choice, I see a fair number of manual 6 speeds out there, but an Auto would be better since LW will need to drive if an emergency circumstance develops.


Teach her to drive a 6-speed. It will take maybe ten minutes.

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Beacher50 wrote:

Why the 5.9 over the 6.7?

Looks like I'll being searching for a low mileage 2008 with a exhaust break,Dodge doesn't make the quad cab with a diesel anymore.


The 6.7 burns more fuel to make less power, and the emission junk can be problematic (like dumping raw fuel into the oil!). I would not own a post-2007 diesel if you GAVE it to me.

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Over 11,000 miles now at about 5,000 about a 2 minute forced regen, I think it was a fluke I was towing at the time. Not one other than that. Use it like it is supposed to be and you won't have any issues. San Diego to Indio, CA 9.7 mpg 27,000# combined, try that with a Hemi...NOT!


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Posted: 06/11/12 01:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

come on now... who in the right mind would try to tow 27K combined with a hemi...let alone with a 2500 Cummins?


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Just got rid of a 2007 Chevy with the 6.0 and 4:11 rear end, driving a 2012 Dodge 2500 with the Hemi and pull with a 2007 Dodge DRW 4x4 Cummins with a manual 6. As the others said, buy the diesel!

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Dougie123 wrote:

come on now... who in the right mind would try to tow 27K combined with a hemi...let alone with a 2500 Cummins?


Ha....there are boneheads that do it! Guy with a 2500RAM 4x4 pulls a 39' brookstone no airbags. " It tows just fine " !!!!!!!!

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If buying used, keep your eye out for a really clean low-miles 04 and newer Cummins. I wouldn't get too hung-up on the transmission, stick or auto will be fine. An exhaust brake is an easy add-on, and worth the money. The main thing, is finding one that has been taken care of and not modified with hot rod junk. As far as the 6.7 and 68rfe trans, I really enjoy mine, and wouldn't go back to my old 5.9 5-speed. Good luck.


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Be aware the 05 has a plastic intercooler. Stock power okay, modified .. not so much!
As long as it has a CUMMINS you are good to go!

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