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Posted: 06/17/12 06:07pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With my sense of symmetry, it seems like two would be better than one. Anyone with any experience going from one to two or two to one? I know that dual cam is better, so is hensley, etc. etc. etc.

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Posted: 06/17/12 06:29pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would think that two would give you twice the sway control that one would. That is probably why the manufacturers recommend usint two when the trailer is longer than about 26 feet.
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BarneyS wrote:

I would think that two would give you twice the sway control that one would. That is probably why the manufacturers recommend usint two when the trailer is longer than about 26 feet.
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I know that is what "They" say, but of course, "They" are selling them. I wondered if anyone had any real world experience.

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TomG2 wrote:

BarneyS wrote:

I would think that two would give you twice the sway control that one would. That is probably why the manufacturers recommend usint two when the trailer is longer than about 26 feet.
Barney


I know that is what "They" say, but of course, "They" are selling them. I wondered if anyone had any real world experience.

I doubt very much that is the reason for their recommendations.
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Posted: 06/17/12 07:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

As hard as it is to believe, sometimes those with a financial incentive let it alter their recommendations. Really doesn't matter what the sellers say, I wondered if anyone had experimented with two versus one or the other way around.

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Used to have one....which did help.......now have two and my TT pulls straight! No sway what so ever.

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Posted: 06/17/12 08:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thomas the Doubter, 2 are better than one except according to my wife she could do without 1 of me. It depends on how big a trailer and if you are having asway problems. Mine sways a lttle at 100 MPH and above.LOL

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I had much personal experience with 2 vs 1 on the same 31 ft TT. I will be up font and apologize for the long reply.

I must define what I call "wiggle". Wiggle is the independent movement of the TV and the TT, some call it tail wagging the dog, but its not that but you can feel the push from passing vehicles on the TT then on the TV as the vehicle passes you. That is what I call "wiggle". Note: "wiggle" is not SWAY.

Without Sway Control and With my WD hitch only there was noticeable "wiggle" from passing vehicles. (NOTE: Wiggle is not sway) still in control, but pretty "white Knuckle" for the unexperienced tower that I was at the time.

1) Added a friction sway control- MUCH better, (like a quantum leap) Much less wiggle from passing vehicles but it was still there. Felt more in control

2) Added the second friction sway control- Even better, no "wiggle" The wiggle from passing vehicles was no longer a "wiggle" it was a uniform "push". Push being the pressure wake from the passing vehicles felt like it was pushing the rig almost as one.

I have a #3... I decided I had to have a more advanced hitch design and went with Dual Cam sway control. It took some dialing in, but this thing is sweet! The "wiggle" is completely GONE now and the passing pressure wake is a pure push now, not a wiggle at all. I prefer the Dual Cam set up because it is proactive at preventing sway instead of dampening sway.

HOWEVER... I must say, that the change from Dual friction sway control to Reese Dual Cam is not a quantum leap forward as far as "feel". As a matter of fact, the rig felt just as stable with dual friction sway control and the dual cam by Reese.

With a WD hitch and DUAL friction sway control, the rig was VERY stable and I would not be afraid to tow tomorrow with dual friction sway control arms and a properly set up WD hitch.

In summary:

1) WD hitch- No WD- White Knuckle with my 31 after
2) WD Hitch- Single Friction sway control- HUGE difference, still some "wiggle"
3) WD Hitch- Dual Friction sway control- more difference, no "wiggle" (as good as dialed in Dual Cam...sorry, but in my experience it was true)
4) WD Hitch- Dual Cam Sway Control- little difference from the dual friction sway control for feel. Still my preferred hitch (namely because I have it now) because it is a "proactive" design instead of a "reactive" Design of a friction sway device.

I have read horror stories about what "might" happen with a friction sway control device or heaven forbid a dual friction sway control. However, I have never seen any empirical evidence to support that they are dangerous or that they are a hazard to towing.. etc. etc.

IMHO if someone has a standard WD hitch that is set up properly and has a single friction device and they still feel some Wiggle in the rig I recommend trying a second friction sway control, they are cheap, easy to install, and my experience says that a dual friction sway control will perform extremely well to take the wiggle out of the towing experience.

Why didn't I go back to dual friction sway control if it was stable after i went to Dual Cam? Namely because I like the design and proactive approach of the dual cam. And it is very stable, I don't have to disconnect and reconnect extra pieces when I am hitching/unhitching etc. Oh, and the main reason is because I gave my second friction sway control bar to my buddy who only had one and his TT is almost 30 ft long. LOL

OP I am sorry to bring Dual-Cam into the discussion, but I thought that the additional experience would be a help to the discussion.

Thanks!

Jeremiah


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Tow Vehicle: 1999 F-350, v10, 2wd, Crew Cab, Dually
Hitch: Draw-Tite Trunnion WD Hitch
Sway Control: Valley dual friction sway control
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Posted: 06/17/12 08:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Paassin Thru wrote:

Thomas the Doubter, 2 are better than one except according to my wife she could do without 1 of me. It depends on how big a trailer and if you are having asway problems. Mine sways a lttle at 100 MPH and above.LOL


Apparently, I asked a silly question, since I got this kind of answer. One wife, two cats, and three dogs, one too many of each.

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Posted: 06/17/12 08:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thanks Jeremiah. That was the kind of infomation I was requesting. I tow a lot with various tow vehicles and trailers since I full time and travel six to eight months per year. With current 1500 and 28' TT, I am getting more "Wiggle" from side winds and semis than I did before with heavier tow vehicles and lighter trailers. I have single bar and think I will order a second.

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