jjotmo
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Thanks for the replies. I think i will spend a little more and replace the old gy marathons with new ones. I just bought this fiver and i think these are originals from 99 I just can't find the dot date code yet. A dealer told me they are only on one side of the tire so I may climb under tomorrow just to know.
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gorjo01
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maniac007 wrote:Bruce1957 wrote:Some time ago I did a search on Maxxis tires to see where they are made. No luck.
So does anybody know for sure where they are made?
2011 Montana 3150 RL
2033 Dodge 3500 Dually 5.9 Cummins HO
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Taiwan. I put MAXXIS ST 225 75 R15 LRE on mine ealier this year and everything seems to be better, tires run cooler, trailer dosn't bounce or sway as much.
Mine are made in Thailand. Maxxis are the best ST tires you can buy.
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robrose1
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Discount tire ordered the Maxxis load range D for me and had them installed in 3 days. This is the 2nd set on my 25.5 Jayco and they are great tires.
Rob and Rose
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valhalla360
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Lot's of paranoia and anecdotal evidence but I've yet to see statistical evidence of a difference.
We just replaced our 8yr old carliles because we the tread was running out. No sign of impending death and destruction.
Without evidence to the contrarary, most of the "china bomb" stories are the result of 99% of trailers coming from the dealer with these tires. Of course if 99% come with these tires 99% of the blow outs will be with these tires.
If it makes you feel better, spend the extra but don't expect a significant improvement in safety.
Tammy Mike & the Bilge Rat (AKA: Diego)
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RandACampin
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valhalla360 wrote:Lot's of paranoia and anecdotal evidence but I've yet to see statistical evidence of a difference.
We just replaced our 8yr old carliles because we the tread was running out. No sign of impending death and destruction.
Without evidence to the contrarary, most of the "china bomb" stories are the result of 99% of trailers coming from the dealer with these tires. Of course if 99% come with these tires 99% of the blow outs will be with these tires.
If it makes you feel better, spend the extra but don't expect a significant improvement in safety.
x2. Agreed and you are 100% correct. That has been my contention the whole time. Now, because of your level-headed pragmatic view, you will be labeled as well.
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Mike, it seems the smaller the trailer the better it does on ST tires. The ST235/80R16E's when used near their Max rating seems to be the biggest culprit for the ST bad wrap.
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LostinAZ
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Red Birder wrote:Mike, it seems the smaller the trailer the better it does on ST tires. The ST235/80R16E's when used near their Max rating seems to be the biggest culprit for the ST bad wrap.
X2 There are those who try to use the failure rates on their Travel Trailer tires to prove that the failure rates on the large 5th wheels are not out of line because of the high volume of Manufacturers using OEM Chinese ST tires. That is nothing more that trying to obfuscate the data to fit their agenda. It is well known that most of the reported tire failures have been on the larger 5th wheels. And most of those reported failures have been Chinese manufactured Tires. So lets keep the facts straight and separate TT's from 5th wheel tire failures.
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valhalla360
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LostinAZ wrote:Red Birder wrote:Mike, it seems the smaller the trailer the better it does on ST tires. The ST235/80R16E's when used near their Max rating seems to be the biggest culprit for the ST bad wrap.
X2 There are those who try to use the failure rates on their Travel Trailer tires to prove that the failure rates on the large 5th wheels are not out of line because of the high volume of Manufacturers using OEM Chinese ST tires. That is nothing more that trying to obfuscate the data to fit their agenda. It is well known that most of the reported tire failures have been on the larger 5th wheels. And most of those reported failures have been Chinese manufactured Tires. So lets keep the facts straight and separate TT's from 5th wheel tire failures.
So by your logic, why all the talk about china bombs? The OP was talking about a 6700# unit. Hardly a giant.
What I really like is your ending logic: "most of the reported failures have been Chinese manufactured Tires." So you are supporting my assertion?...most of the tires out there are Chinese manufactured. Of course most of the failures are Chinese. Show me a study that has at least a hint of statistical significance that they fail at a higher rate on a per tire basis.
That's the great thing about the USA, you can spend your money the way you want. If you think it's worth while pay for the more expensive tire.
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Sooner Schooner
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I met a man two days ago,who said he had two of his Carlisle blow out on his way here to Colorado. The side of his toyhauler received damage from one of the tires when it blew.
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valhalla360 wrote:Show me a study that has at least a hint of statistical significance that they fail at a higher rate on a per tire basis.
Here in lie one of the issues. Most people do not report tire failures. Companies like Goodyear have a fairly good idea of the failure rate of their tires and factor that into the business model for the product. Data like this is however highly guarded within a company.
Because the damage done beyond the failed tire is limited to property damage in most cases and is not consider life threatening it stays below the radar. Consequential damages are excluded from most tire warranties, yet they routinely are paid! Why? Do they not want the insurance industry to come after them?
A good 60 Minutes or 20/20 investigation would uncover more details of the extent of the issue. With an industry that is failing to self police its self, it is going to take something like this to get to the bottom of the issue.
If you search back through some of the informative tire threads here and other places on the web, it appears that the problem is pretty will documented. And that the origins of this tire type were never intended for such extreme service. Coupled that with the fact that the tire type has seen little design change over the last 15-20 years, while trailers got taller, larger and heavier. And the result is lost time on trips, cost to owners and/or their insurance companies, and land fills full of very short life tires.
There are millions of cars, SUVs and pickup trucks with a spare tire in the trunk or hanging under that back, have you ever heard of one of these tires exploding? Yet I have read were trailer tires have exploded while while on the spare rack and have never seen service on the ground. That seems a little telling about the quality of the tires we are dealing with.
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