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Posted: 06/19/12 09:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

my momentary switch will not turn on my house batteries. its a 2004 fleetwood storm and the battery solenoid is up front in the engine compartment in a big black box with many other fuses.
on the schematic it says that there is a reset button on top of the battery disconnect fuse box. looking at this picture can anyone give me a idea of where that reset might be?
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will post another pic also

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Really can't tell from the pictures, you only gave a picture of part of the box. I would check for reset buttons on the two silver colored circuit breakers at the bottom of the picture(below the solenoid).

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If your chassis battery goes dead while parked with 110 volt hookup, this is the likely culprit!

If your coach batteries go dead while driving this is also the likely culprit!

If your Jumpstart push switch on the dash fails to work this is likely the cause of the problem, unless both sets of batteries are dead.

I don't recall if I told you that our coach is having a problem that also occurred on our 96. The chassis battery will sometimes lose it's charge while the shore line is hooked up and power on. The culprit is the starter style solenoid that is visible inside the BCC (battery control center) chassis/coach interface box under the hood or in the top of the propane compartment on newer units. It is engaged automatically by the solid-state controller circuit after a short timeout when ever the shore power is on so both battery sets are maintained. They use a cheap copper contact solenoid that corrodes quickly when engaged for long periods of time. The cure is to get number BWD-S 603 solenoid from O-Reilly's Auto Stores. It has silver plated contacts and will not deteriorate so easily. I have noticed the chassis battery low twice now and it is hard on the battery. The solenoid is the same one that engages when you use the push to jump-start switch. I have fixed ours temp both times by just engaging the jump start switch rapidly several times. The S 603 runs $34.99 as opposed to the Fleetwood copper part for $52.00. Anyway if you have the problem you now know where to look. Since this is a common problem I was watching it closer then usual and caught it before it went clear dead on our 2003.

By the way another way to verify the solenoid is the problem would be to use a digital volt meter and check the voltage to ground on each of the two heavy terminals on the solenoid switch. One would be lower then the other with the engine running as we talked indicating no or poor connection through the solenoid.

Yes, the solenoid switch in question is just like the old Ford solenoids.

Never work on the (B)attery (C)ontrol (C)enter with out disconnecting the shore power cord, all batteries and removing the roof mounted solar panel fuse (FIRST) in the BCC. If you disconnect the batteries and the coach is parked out in a bright sunny day, the solar panel can put 18-24 Volts into the BCC circuit board because of the lack of battery load to charge. That can be why there are occasional failures of the BCC circuit board. Again 9 out of 10 failures of the chassis battery charging circuit while parked are caused by the corrosion in the solenoid switch that can be cured by changing to the better one (BWD S-603) with silver plated contacts inside.


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The only resets in you RV Custom Products Battery Control Center is on the two 30 amp circuit breakers in the bottom of the picture. The continuous duty relay that you point out is the isolator relay between the two battery banks. The battery disconnects are the two big black devices behind the circuit board. There is a 3 amp fuse on the circuit board for the disconnect relays.

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Did you find the circuit breakers? I'm working thru this issue myself...
My circuit breakers do not reset. I push them in and they pop right back out.

I already replaced the solenoid but that didn't solve my problem, so I'm hoping maybe the circut breakers are the villian, so I don't have to replace the circuit board ($229.00 from Fleetwood).

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limestone.cowboy wrote:

Did you find the circuit breakers? I'm working thru this issue myself...
My circuit breakers do not reset. I push them in and they pop right back out.

I already replaced the solenoid but that didn't solve my problem, so I'm hoping maybe the circut breakers are the villian, so I don't have to replace the circuit board ($229.00 from Fleetwood).


Disconnect the load from the circuit breakers and see if they reset then. You could have a short somewhere downstream from the breakers.

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I have never found a reset buton that would fix a battery disconnect not activating. Can you hear a click at all? The odds are it is the solenoid that is bad. Doug

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dougrainer wrote:

I have never found a reset buton that would fix a battery disconnect not activating. Can you hear a click at all? The odds are it is the solenoid that is bad. Doug



i don't hear any click when i hit the switch and i believe i found the solenoid but its behind the master board in the engine compartment and i am kind of leary about removing the entire board and afraid i might screw it up more than just the solenoid.
thanks doug

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