rerod

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Boy.. Now I know why they want $1500
I just learned, yes it can occur even at my age, it's one thing to jack one side up. But a completely different song and dance with all the wheels off the ground. Sitting on a hill doesn't help either. Need to ditch my cheesy jack stands or place them on something big and flat.
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nayther

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Yes, you need flat solid ground and GOOD jack stands. That's why I haven't fixed my fresh water tank because the thought of crawling under a 12,000# trailer sitting on jacks scares the******out of me.
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rerod

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nayther wrote: Yes, you need flat solid ground and GOOD jack stands. That's why I haven't fixed my fresh water tank because the thought of crawling under a 12,000# trailer sitting on jacks scares the******out of me.
At least with your water tank the wheels are still on. It wont squish you..
Im getting 4 cinder blocks, leveled, with plywood on top before I attempt this again.
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rerod wrote: christopherglenn wrote: 4x4x.25 box, with a crossmember above each axle. the crossmembers reduce the leverage of the framerails when turning.
If you look at the picture again, you can see stainless nuts which fasten the aluminum floor I beams to the steel channel the axles are bolted to. I dont have room for 4" x 4" x 1/4" tube unless I drill clearance holes for each SS nut. However a 4" x 2" x 1/4" would fit next to the SS nuts and still pass directly over the axle mounting flange. Do you guys think 4" x 2" set the tall way would be ok if I join/weld both sides with heavy 4" channel cross-members? The axle mounting bolts will be replaced with 6" bolts which pass through both 4 x 2's.
I might have to use 4 x 4 depending on availability.
My local shop wants $1500 to do this. The materials would cost me less than $200 since I have some of it and Im tempted to do this on my own and save $1300
You are refering to the nuts on the bottom of the frame to the left of the axle - mark and drill holes in the top of the 4x4 to fit over them like centering holes on an axle. If you drill both sides of the 4x4 you can still remove the hits with a deep socket.
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rerod wrote: Boy..  Now I know why they want $1500
I just learned, yes it can occur even at my age, it's one thing to jack one side up. But a completely different song and dance with all the wheels off the ground. Sitting on a hill doesn't help either. Need to ditch my cheesy jack stands or place them on something big and flat.
I have several 2' and 3' lengths of cut off railroad ties and several cutoff 5" x 5" pieces from barn poles that I prefere to use when lifting as heavy as a trailer.
Stack them at different angles to each other so the trailer doesn't roll off the blocks. Good luck.
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Please don't use cinder blocks as jackstands! Just sayin!
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nayther

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My reason for concern is that I have to drop the axles so it would be supported only by jackstands, the truck, jacks, etc.
A short story on "cribbing" which is using things like RR ties, blocks, etc. A very well respected acquaintance was killed a few years back when his motorhome fell on him while he was under it doing suspension work. It was supported by dunnage (4x4's stacked in a box fashion like you see under houses being moved) nobody knows exactly what failed but it did, now Bert Elrod is dead.
That's why I haven't fixed my tank.
If you use something to support the trailer and you'll be under it I highly recommend you set up something that won't topple and then stack something else up as a "safety" or "stop" so that if your primary support fails the trailer will land on something besides you.
Bobwanderer may shed some light on this as he's worked for years on heavy equipment before his recent retirement.
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Dwight45 wrote: Please don't use cinder blocks as jackstands! Just sayin!
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Dwight45 wrote: Please don't use cinder blocks as jackstands! Just sayin!
Dwight
I picked up a bunch of 24 x 12 x 4" solid concrete pavers. I plan on leveling those and placing my jacks and jack stands on them. At the moment, Im still paranoid after what happened yesterday. The trailer moved about a foot to the left and I had to change my shorts. If the wheels had been off I woundnt be writing this.
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I made some headway this afternoon. I need to add jacks on the front corners yet. But its pretty solid because it sits on all three supports. In fact there isn't a hint of sway and it feels like your inside a house. Second picture shows how far the trailer moved. Suggestions?

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