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AJ618

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Posted: 06/20/12 08:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi all,

My husband & I are looking at our first experience with owning a TT. We found one that we love, but I'm scared to death of towing it. Some of the research/dealers/salesman say we're just fine and within the limits of our truck. However, Google results and forums have me terrified.
Here's the setup: we're looking at a 29' TT with a dry weight of 5050 lbs. We've got a WD hitch and anti-sway bars. My husband drives a 2007 Nissan Titan XE 4x4 withOUT the big tow package. According to the owners manual we are set up to tow 6500 lbs. We are buying this camper not for long haul camping, mainly just trips within 2 hours of home with other family members and friends. I'm not sure what other specs I would need to include, but does this seem like too much for our truck? I know you must get posts like this constantly, so I appreciate your input. I'd rather be safe than sorry before we sign the paperwork on it. This is what I've come up with so far, I tried to be liberal on weights of cargo/stuff.

Titan GCVWR: 13,000
Titan GVWR: 6500

Titan Weight:5100
Fuel: 180
People/Cargo/Dogs:1000
Total: 6280

Trailer Dry Weight: 5050
Trailer GVWR: 7000
Options: 300
Battery: 50
Propane: 75
20 Gal. Water: 170
Stuff In Trailer: 400
Total:6045

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Posted: 06/20/12 09:13am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hi,

I think you are pushing it with the weight. The Titan's 6500 tow capacity is probably with one 150# person driving and no gas in the tank! If that's the case, all your stuff and other people weight needs to come off the towing capacity.

"Can" you do it? Probably, especially given you live in the flatlands of FL. "Should" you do it and risk an overloaded truck, potential poor handling, and premature wear & tear on your truck? Your choice!

You have done some good homework...I'd verify a couple numbers before making the move to buy.

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Posted: 06/20/12 09:22am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If it had the big tow package, yes. I do not know what the package includes that raises tow rating by 4000 pounds. They all have the same engine and trans. Axle ratio maybe? Trans cooler? I say as long as you get a good transmission cooler, you are probably good with that RV.


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If your that scared of it, then it won't be that enjoyable. Maybe a motorhome would be better.

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Your weights are good. You will be fine. Remember there is a wide safety margin built into those weights.

Might not be the most fun crossing the Rockies, but you won't be doing that, probably. Take your time, hang in the right lane.

But I think it would be a really good idea to add a transmission cooler to your truck.


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Do we need an after market transmission cooler, in addition to what's already on the truck?
We definitely won't be anywhere mountainous!

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Maybe I am missing it, but you also need to include the Tongue Weight of the Trailer when looking at the total weight being added to the Tow Vehicle.


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APT wrote:

If it had the big tow package, yes. I do not know what the package includes that raises tow rating by 4000 pounds. They all have the same engine and trans. Axle ratio maybe? Trans cooler? I say as long as you get a good transmission cooler, you are probably good with that RV.


Big tow package includes tranny cooler, tanny temp guage, tow mirrors, heavy duty battery, and 3:36 rear end. Non - big tow has 2:93 rear end. Difference between the two, like comparing 3:73 to 4:10.

OP - Yes, you should consider adding the trans cooler. You are pushing it on TT weight vs tow capacity. Your tranny is going to get HOT. Your list of esitmated weights should include 100 lbs for the WD hitch and sway bars. Your estimated passenger / cargo weight in the truck, does not leave enough payload capacity to handle the TT tongue weight. Your tongue weight could go as high as 900 lbs.


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Go out and weigh the whole setup loaded ready to go camping.

Weigh it axle by axle

Then look up the specifications of your TV, as that is what it is rated for.

There are somethings not easily or able to add after the fact. Factory
tow options also has stuff like larger alternator, battery, and the
biggie...software in the ECU (engine control unit).

Also, decide if you believe in the ratings or not.

If not, then do whatever you wish, but know that that is risk management decision
AKA...gambling


Made up this diagram from another members diagram that shows the relationship
of all the specifications/limits/ratings/etc. They all play together in concert
and are not stand alone ratings.
howmuchcanitow

This is a good thread of another with a similar to your situation. This might
help you figure out your setup

[url=http://forums.woodalls.com/Index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/26116259/gotomsg/26117195.cfm#26117195]Tow Vehicle for a Large Family and Hybrid [url]


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Get a good tranny cooler, good tires, pack smart and drive the speed limit like all people pulling a trailer should do and you'll be fine.


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