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Gray Fox

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Posted: 06/26/12 10:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have had no luck trying to get Michelin XPS Ribs The ones I could get have a DOT date of 2310. and they are 400 miles away. I can get some Cooper Discover HT Range "E" 10 ply. dated 0212. I saw them myself.Would this be a good choice. The axles are 7000 LBS.
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Did you try Tire Rack?I just bought some tires for my Dually and they sent them to an installer close to me.really worked out well.the date code on my tires were like 2 or 3 weeks old.They were cheaper then going to tire shop and having them do the entire job.


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Posted: 06/26/12 10:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

XPS Ribs are Not a good choice for 7K axles. You might consider upgrading to 17.5 inch tire wheel package for a bit more than the Ribs would cost you.


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I did a 1-800 with Cooper some years back on which of their LT tires they recommended for my 11200 lb trailer. I was interested in the Discoverer but the only LT line they would recommend was their commercial tread SM II 16" LT E.

If your interested in the Ribs and can't find them you will get basically the same all steel casing tire in the Bridgestone R-250 which is a commercial grade tire but a bit lower in cost the the Michelin Rib tire.

The tires were talking about will give you 12168 lbs of capacity


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JIMNLIN wrote:

I did a 1-800 with Cooper some years back on which of their LT tires they recommended for my 11200 lb trailer. I was interested in the Discoverer but the only LT line they would recommend was their commercial tread SM II 16" LT E.

If your interested in the Ribs and can't find them you will get basically the same all steel casing tire in the Bridgestone R-250 which is a commercial grade tire but a bit lower in cost the the Michelin Rib tire.

The tires were talking about will give you 12168 lbs of capacity


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No way I'd settle on a 2 year old tire, especially with the price of a Rib.
Note the weight capacity Jim listed. I realize not all 7k axles actually carry a full 7k lbs. Know your weights before putting a E rated LT tire on.


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Put on a set of GY G614 G and don' look back. Use tire mfg tire inflation chart inflate 5 psi over loaded tire weight. Yea yea make sure wheels rate for the psi you will be running. I did this on my Avion that came with E tires and had several thousand trouble free miles.


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A lot of folks go with Goodrich Commercial tires as they are made by Midchelin & cheaper than Michelin XPS Ribs. I would not go with 17.5 unless you have $2,500 bucks setting around that you have no use for. If you want a little heavier tire you may want to look at a hankook F 19, it is a 750X16 14 ply, it is a commercial light truck tire. On our last rig came with GY G614 had real bad luck with them. Went with the 750X16 Hankook's only had one problems with them after we ate one day I did not look/check at my tires which I almost always do every time I would get in the truck, after running the G614's & it went flat & lost it. I think they are a 65 mph tire so if you run 75+ don't bother to look at them, I run 62-63 mph, Oh yes make sure that your rims will take the higher pressure as they go up to 105 psi.

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pecifications
Hitch Wt. 2,240
UVW 10,811
GVWR 14,500
NCC 3,630
GAWR 6,084
Brakes 12" x 2"
Tires ST235/80R16E
Model 34.5 RLTG
Width 96"
Height 12' 9"
Length 35' 9"
Furnace 40,000
Awning Opt. 17'
Water 70
Tanks 28/50/50


So, if your GAWR is 6084 like this spec data from NuWa site, and you can not find Michelin tires, then do what someone else suggested. Find Bridgestone Duravis R250 or R895. I believe that both of these are steel ply sidewall tires.


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Posted: 06/26/12 06:21pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Red Birder wrote:

pecifications
Hitch Wt. 2,240
UVW 10,811
GVWR 14,500
NCC 3,630
GAWR 6,084
Brakes 12" x 2"
Tires ST235/80R16E
Model 34.5 RLTG
Width 96"
Height 12' 9"
Length 35' 9"
Furnace 40,000
Awning Opt. 17'
Water 70
Tanks 28/50/50


So, if your GAWR is 6084 like this spec data from NuWa site, and you can not find Michelin tires, then do what someone else suggested. Find Bridgestone Duravis R250 or R895. I believe that both of these are steel ply sidewall tires.


I’ve been opposed to this kind of post since I started posting tire information.

I have no idea why people will take it upon themselves to post and support information that violates standards and safety procedures.

In the quote above I’ve changed a number to the color red to highlight the figure I’m going to write about.

NHTSA writes and enforces safety standards. They say replacement tires MUST have equal or greater load capacities than the OE tires being replaced.

Industry standards are all supported by tire manufacturers, the TRA and RMA.

The DOT says vehicle manufacturers are responsible for setting the RV trailer’s GAWR, the tires/rims selected for the GAWR and the recommended tire pressures. Once set in motion and displayed on the vehicle’s certification label that information becomes the minimum standard for that trailer. That doesn’t mean an owner is locked into the OE tire size or design. It just means your replacements have to equal or be greater than what is depicted on the labeling.

Of course as an owner you can do as you see fit. You are responsible. As a recommender of an unsafe recommendation here on the internet I doubt you can be held accountable for that action. I’m not picking on this particular poster. I’m just using the well displayed information in the quoted post to get my point across. Just maybe someone making this sort of recommendation has not understood how the industry fits all the pieces together.

To stem your curiosity you should consult with the vehicle manufacturer or tire manufacturer. Tell them exactly what your certification label/tire placard displays and get some feedback.

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I installed the Cooper SRM II LT 16's a month or so ago and they are well worth the $$. My trailer is placarded for LT's altho it came stock with ST's. I called Forest River and they basically told me it was whatever they had available that day and admitted the 'Offshore' tires were cheaper to use. Screw that!
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