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SoCalDesertRider

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Posted: 06/27/12 07:37pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I almost lost the left rear set of duals on my F350 dually in northern Nevada. Noticed a strange vibration and noise. Caught it before all the lug nuts came off. Unfortunately, it must have been loose for quite some time because it egged out all of the lug holes in the wheels and wore down the studs too.

The other side must have come loose at some previous time, because when I checked the wheels, they were egged out too.

Ended up buying 5 new wheels (all 4 rears, plus the truck had no spare wheel when I got it) and 16 new lug studs. Cost me about $1000.


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Posted: 06/27/12 07:41pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Over-torque is just as bad as under-torque. If you continuosly check the lug nuts without using a torque wrench you can actually over-torque them.

Lost a wheel on our last 5er 400 miles out from delivery at the Dealer. Dealer had put aftermarket wheels on and the tire shop over-torqued according to the investigation on the wheel by the manufacturer. The lugs spread the aluminum in the hole. Ended up with new wheels, and all new studs.


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Posted: 06/27/12 07:53pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I drive a 2011 chevy D/A. I am now nervous, what should I torque those to. What about the 16 inch steel wheels on my 2005 Cardinal. I have to admit here in my 39 years of driving I have never used a torque wrench on a tire. But that is going to change tomorrow!


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Posted: 06/27/12 08:03pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I believe it was Charles Goodyear who wrote: "It's true that what you don't know can hurt you. But it's the things you know incorrectly that do the real damage."

Glad no one was hurt.





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Posted: 06/27/12 08:11pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

dave17352 wrote:

I drive a 2011 chevy D/A. I am now nervous, what should I torque those to. What about the 16 inch steel wheels on my 2005 Cardinal. I have to admit here in my 39 years of driving I have never used a torque wrench on a tire. But that is going to change tomorrow!

Like Brad said, over torque can be just as big of a problem. Check your documents on each vehicle for correct torque. Also watch the tire shops cause some just hit them with the gun like one size fits all, demand a TW with known good torque numbers.


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Posted: 06/27/12 08:12pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

45Ricochet wrote:

dave17352 wrote:

I drive a 2011 chevy D/A. I am now nervous, what should I torque those to. What about the 16 inch steel wheels on my 2005 Cardinal. I have to admit here in my 39 years of driving I have never used a torque wrench on a tire. But that is going to change tomorrow!

Like Brad said, over torque can be just as big of a problem. Check your documents on each vehicle for correct torque. Also watch the tire shops cause some just hit them with the gun like one size fits all, demand a TW with known good torque numbers.


where would you find the info on the cardinal 5th wheel?

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Posted: 06/27/12 08:16pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

dave17352 wrote:

I drive a 2011 chevy D/A. I am now nervous, what should I torque those to.


The owner's manual for the Chevy truck listed in my sig says torque the lug nuts to 140 ft/lbs.


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Posted: 06/27/12 08:32pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

REWahoo wrote:

dave17352 wrote:

I drive a 2011 chevy D/A. I am now nervous, what should I torque those to.


The owner's manual for the Chevy truck listed in my sig says torque the lug nuts to 140 ft/lbs.


Looks like another trip to harbour frieght.

* This post was edited 06/28/12 09:12am by dave17352 *

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So glad to hear no collateral damage or accidents resulted... It reminded me of our residential move from MO to OH. The contracted owner operator of the moving van was delayed to pack and move us due to having to "borrow" a rig from a local United Van Lines affiliate. On his way from MN to MO he was travelling in the left lane to allow a car to merge from an on ramp. As he was preparing to get back over he saw a tractor on the oncoming side of the interstate lose a rear wheel. If he had changed lanes the tire was on a trajectory to wipe our the little sedan he allowed to merge. In an instant he decided to brake hard and the tire hit just behind the cab and wiped out his entire truck. The car safely passed him on the right before the impact of the tire spun his whole rig across the right lane and into the grass on the shoulder. The rig was a total loss and he had some nasty bruises and, I think he said, cracked ribs.

His quick thinking saved the family of 4 in that sedan. A tire and wheel at highway speed is a lethal weapon for sure. Although he couldn't do much packing his hired help busted through our house in 1 day rather than the quoted 2 to get us on schedule. He is one over the road driver I wish more would emulate. A great guy for sure that averted a potentially horrible situation with quick thinking and bravery....


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Posted: 06/28/12 05:49am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Not quite the same as previous posters experience, but semi in front of me years ago lost the spare out from under the trailer.

Hit the pavement, bounced and started rolling off the highway. Small bar cafe was off the road at that location and the bouncing, rolling spare went right through the front door, just smashing it into pieces.

Luck was with us that day, as it was still early afternoon, and no customers or workers were even near the door. Sure could have been a fatality getting hit by that much tire moving that fast.


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