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Posted: 06/30/12 06:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Help! what's the real scoop on this topic-- Just about all 1/2 tons have a pretty limited payload capacity. If the actual pin weight of a lite 5er is anywhere in the 1300 to 1500 range-- it's almost certain to exceed payload capacity when drivers/hitch and other gear are added to the tow veh? Trailer dealers are not the best resource to get a straight answer-- are there any 5ers that are truly 1/2 ton towable?

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Yes, there are a few FWs that are about 25ft and can be towed with the newer 1/2t trucks. My 30ft is a bit much for the truck in my signature.


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Get the F150HD (Max Payload Package) model. It has between 2300-3000 lbs payload capacity, depending on cab size, 4wd/2wd and how many other options you put on the truck. They now sell the 8200 GVWR F150HD in crew cab 6-1/2' bed version, in higher trim levels than they used to. It's just as nice a truck as any F150 you can buy, but has a LOT more payload capacity than the standard 7xxx GVWR F150 non-HD models. With the Ecoboost engine and 3.73 gears, it has lots of power and good empty gas mileage too for daily driving.


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To know how much actual pin weight is available to you before exceeding GVWR, weight you truck fully loaded for camping (include 200 +or- for hitch, passenger(s), pets, tools box, full gas tank).

Subtract that weight from GVWR and that's how much pin you have available.

If buying near/or new, check info on "dry" pin weight then add approx 200 lbs.





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Posted: 06/30/12 10:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pretty simple, a pickup with a payload capacity of 1,000 pounds should not haul 2,000 pounds. Some 150-1500 series pickups have the higher capacity required. Most don't. Get on the scales, do the math.

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Posted: 06/30/12 10:33am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Trailer dealers are not the best resource to get a straight answer-- are there any 5ers that are truly 1/2 ton towable?

Dealers are there to sell so your right. Pull up in a Ridgeline and you'll be fine also.
There are a few 5er's in the 25' range but not many. What year truck are you talking about? Some newer 15 series have really increased payloads.


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OMG - say you aren't really going to pull a 5er with a 1/2 ton! Just kidding - I'm not a BB stackin weight cop who says absolutely not, before he knows what you have! Be wary of the load limits no matter what you have. I pulled a very light (5k loaded) 25'er, in our early years of rving, with an old (96) 1/2t SB gasser and was way under the limits. That was some of the most fun and memorable rving we ever did. That little combo would fit anywhere. We used to drive thru the Co and Wy mtns, just looking for an out-of-the-way spot to camp. Craig

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My current truck is a 2011 F150 Eboost CC with a 6 1/2 bed-- payload posted on the truck is 1938 lbs---- typical dry hitch weight we're looking at is 1300--not including the trailer load -- which typically would add about 200 lbs---When you add hitch/passengers and gear-- bingo! You're over capacity

I know there's a heavy duty payload package avaialble for the new F 150s -- and that's probably the way to go since we probably need about 2200 payload cap to be within range--

I find it incredible that every trailer dealer you see will tell you that just about any 1/2 ton can pull one of the newer 5ers that are "designed" for a light truck-- when in fact there are relatively few 1/2 ton truck trailer combos that will really work-

Thought maybe I was missing something-- Thanks for the advice!

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That sucks to have to trade in a 2011 F150 to get a 2012 F150HD to pull the trailer, due to lack of payload capcacity of the non-HD truck you have now.

I would keep the current truck, forget about fifth wheels, and pull a bumper pull trailer instead. Save money all around and still have plenty of fun camping.

There's no reason you HAVE to have a fifth wheel. Plenty of folks camp with bumper pull RV trailers without problems.

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