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Posted: 07/01/12 12:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Dear Customer:

Edge Products and Superchips have been, and continue to be, proud supporters of competitive diesel motorsports across the United States and Canada. We proudly support and sponsor organizations such as NHRDA and NADM that promote legal racing and diesel competition in cities and towns all across North America. Despite our continued support of diesel motorsports, we have made the strategic decision to discontinue our Edge Racing and Superchips Racing products effective immediately. We will not accept new orders for Edge and Superchips Racing products as of July 12, 2011.

Edge Products and Superchips will no longer offer for sale Edge Racing and Superchips Racing-branded diesel, tuning products in the United States. Unfortunately, we believe a portion of dealers and consumers are exploiting the intended use of these products which has a negative impact on the future of this industry.

Prior to launching the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands, we undertook numerous preventive measures to ensure all dealers and consumers clearly understood the intended use of these products. In spite of our best efforts, we have concluded that these policies are not adequate to assure abuse is prevented. We have performed an exhaustive review of these measures, including numerous conversations with regulatory agencies such as EPA and CARB, in order to try to devise an effective way whereby we can assure ‘Racing’ products are used as intended. Based on our review, at this time, we do not believe there are adequate prevention measures available to the industry which provide those assurances.

We strongly encourage, for the long-term health of our industry, that all distributors, dealers and consumers of these or similar products made by other companies cease selling any electronic tuning product that contains the ability to disable any emissions system for late-model diesel trucks including (but not limited to) the DPF system, EGR system and Urea (exhaust fluid) injection. Per federal and state regulations, any registered vehicle is required to maintain its emissions systems unless it is used strictly and solely for racing. Unfortunately, even with the exhaustive, preventive measures we have taken, we do not feel it is possible to completely prevent abuse.
We have strong reason to believe all companies that continue to engage in the business of manufacturing, distributing, or selling these kinds of products in the United States will be subject to enforcement action from both the United States EPA and the California Air Resources Board. In the future, if we are able to devise a way to prevent abuse, we hope to re-establish the Edge Racing and Superchips Racing brands.

Below is a list/table that constitutes all Edge and Superchips Racing part numbers that will be immediately discontinued. The table below also identifies the appropriate street-legal replacement part number for the same application. All listed replacement parts can be found on the CARB Products in Progress list and either have been or will be tested for legal street use in the United States. If you have any questions, or would like to discuss this matter further, please do not hesitate to contact us. Our contact information is included below for your convenience.



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RE: SCT Off-Road Diesel Programmers
Dear SCT Customer,
We regret to inform you that, effective immediately, SCT will no longer be offering for sale any of the following SCT products:
· 9625OR
· 9621OR
· 3025OR
· 3067OR
· 4067OR
· 4416OR
· 3416LMMOR
· 8900OR
· 4015OR
· 8967OR
· ORTUNE

Our decision to discontinue these products is based on recent statements made by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) regarding diesel performance products intended solely for racing/off-road use. The EPA and CARB have taken the position that the manufacturer of such products is solely responsible for the proper use of those products by the end-user. Despite our best efforts to carefully develop and implement procedures designed to ensure that each purchaser of our off-road/race-only products is aware of his or her legal obligations and promises to use those products in a lawful manner, as of this time we have not been able to gain satisfactory assurance that such measures will be considered adequate by the EPA and CARB. Consequently, we have chosen to withdraw our off-road/race-only products from the marketplace until we are able to verify that the sale of those products can be achieved in a manner that satisfies EPA’s and CARB’s concerns.

We will continue to monitor developments with regard to applicable federal and state legal requirements. If and when we are able to re-introduce these products into the marketplace in a manner that definitively meets all EPA and CARB requirements, we will do so. In the meantime, we trust that you will understand the basis for our decision.

Thank you for your continued support.
Regards,

Rick Trudo, President - SCT Performance, LLC.


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Posted: 07/01/12 08:40pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Wondered when and where it would start.


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Posted: 07/01/12 09:34pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

http://www.edgeproducts.com/index.php

They still seem to be in business and I ws at the factory two months ago


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Posted: 07/01/12 09:36pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Old news. One year old.


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Posted: 07/02/12 07:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The latest news is the are going after businesses (dealers, independent repair shops) that install tuners and emission deletes.

Gradually working down the food chain.

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Posted: 07/02/12 09:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

All the EPA has to do is implement diesel emissions equipment inspection for annual registration uniformly across the nation and that will stop the tuning/deleting problem right there.

We have testing here in some parts of California and there are other places in the US that also do testing, but many areas do not have diesel emissions equipment inspection and folks can tune/delete whatever they want and still register and drive the truck on the public highways.

Here in California, in areas where we have testing, if you don't have the equipment on the truck, you don't pass the test. If you don't pass the test, you can't renew the registration, and therefore can't drive it on the street. Solves the problem easily enough.

For EPA to put this on the backs of the tuner industry is ludicris. It is the EPA's responsibility to enforce their own laws, not the industry's responsibility.


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Thanks to those of you who can't resist blowing smoke in peoples' faces at every opportunity. Like straight pipes on the Harley, not a problem until the show offs make it a problem.


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Posted: 07/02/12 11:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Pretty sure that EPA reads these forums like anyone can.

And make enforcement decisions accordingly.

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Posted: 07/02/12 11:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"....Old news. One year old...."

Nope, decades old

It's been around ever since EPA mandated smog controls and testing thereof

Before this "....performance products intended solely for racing/off-road use..."
It was "...off road use only...."


"....not a problem until the show offs make it a problem...." and that now has
it most everyone these days...and I call them the fashion statement crowd


Anyone remember back in the late 90's when the low riders/etc were putting on
18's and larger? Laughable by this crowd, but now it is the norm and from the
OEM to boot

Now just about everyone here is into chipping/programing/etc the heck out of
their TV's that was the realm of boy racers just a few years ago

Then the 'sure you can', 'you are good for it', 'it is good for it', etc
crowd that provided advice to go ahead and ignore the specifications
and that the OEM should warranty it, etc

My realtor/broker bought a Suburban a few years ago and the first thing he wanted
to do was to chip/lift/over sized tires/double shocks/etc the heck out of it
Said he wanted a bigger truck than mine...but his is a 7.2K GVWR truck. Maybe
to his kind a 'bigger' truck than mine because it is now taller than mine and
has a chipped ECU, but it's still a 7.2K GVWR and fun part is that I can still
take him off the line with my 6 year older Sub...

Us boy racers knew that we were pushing it and no warranty or most didn't
or really my buddies and I did NOT try to DEFRAUD the OEM with a warranty claim
when we did something to push it beyond the ratings/specifications

As much as most everyone complains about warranty or the lack of it or the OEM
trying to weasel out of it...it also must be factored by all of those who 'try'
to DEFRAUD them when they overloaded/chipped/etc their vehicles

Finally the poor customer relations from the OEM, but they do have
a position with all the fraud out there and as noted by another poster
that is where the Japanese ate Detroit's lunch several times when
the customer base decided they had enough of the bullying from the
OEMs from Detroit


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Posted: 07/02/12 12:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ops...messed up and double posted

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