Magblue10
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Just a possible thought for you. I understand you were in a 12 yr old Chevy and want a more comfortable tow and don't want to buy a new 55000$ plus diesel. W your trailer being 7000 lbs have you looked into an Ecoboost F150. You can get a new Xlt 4x4 crew cab w max tow for anywhere between $33-38000 w rebates which will pull that trailer w ease and you will have plenty of payload left. Go drive one you will be amazed. I'm a ford guy and love the power of the 6.7. I'm just saying you can get a new boost that is very capable better day to day ride and less money new than used and less money for you down the road I just traded my 2010 f150 w the 5.4 and the difference is mind blowing. Just a thought
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Kip81
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If you really want to know about ford diesel motors go to powerstrokearmy.com. Most people on this forum think they know about diesel motors but they really have no clue.
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NewsW
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c3saving wrote:
Definitely will take it directly to a Ford dealership (a reputable one) to have the oil/fuel filters changed. And coolant tested.
Demand to meet the diesel tech that is doing the entire dealer's diesel jobs, and insist they assign the job to him even though it is routine.
As for the low deductible comprehensive coverage - are you talking an extended warranty from Ford?
No, on your auto insurance policy.
It covers things "other than collision or upset" and include things like a bad tank of fuel if the retailer of fuel will not pay up.
The originial owner purchased the 7 yr/ 100,000 mileage Premium Care Extended coverage. It can be transferred for $75, but the original owner must sign a waiver though.
Beg borrow and steal the waiver from the fella.
Is it a Ford warranty? Or 3rd party?
Otherwise the cost to extend out 3 more years/total of 48K miles on the parts that are only covered for 3yr/36miles (expiration next September) on the manufacturer warranty will run $1600. (Engine covered on manufacturer warranty for 5 yrs/100K miles) Still trying to decide on the extended warranty through Ford.
You are gonna be fine on this deal..
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Kip81 wrote:If you really want to know about ford diesel motors go to powerstrokearmy.com. Most people on this forum think they know about diesel motors but they really have no clue.
That website, like many other forums, are full of people with advice on how you can void your warranty and turn your new 6.7 diesel into a door stop.
DO NOT MOD the vehicle.
DO NOT TUNE IT.
DO EXACTLY THE MAINTENANCE REQUIRED BY THE BOOK at the best diesel FORD dealer in your area.
Do not touch biodiesel.
Do not use additives except those SOLD by Ford / Motorcraft and specifically recommended for your vehicle --- keep receipts and log usage.
Do not ever drive it (e.g. pull over immediately) if the Water in fuel light comes on.)
Drain the water out immediately.
Note: Ford ECM logs the WIF light coming on... and if you do nothing and don't drain water... and it stays on.. you killed the warranty on the fuel system.
If it stays on (even with no water draining out) go to dealer immediately and report that problem.
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Kip81
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NewsW wrote:Kip81 wrote:If you really want to know about ford diesel motors go to powerstrokearmy.com. Most people on this forum think they know about diesel motors but they really have no clue.
That website, like many other forums, are full of people with advice on how you can void your warranty and turn your new 6.7 diesel into a door stop.
DO NOT MOD the vehicle.
DO NOT TUNE IT.
DO EXACTLY THE MAINTENANCE REQUIRED BY THE BOOK at the best diesel FORD dealer in your area.
Do not touch biodiesel.
Do not use additives except those SOLD by Ford / Motorcraft and specifically recommended for your vehicle --- keep receipts and log usage.
Do not ever drive it (e.g. pull over immediately) if the Water in fuel light comes on.)
Drain the water out immediately.
Note: Ford ECM logs the WIF light coming on... and if you do nothing and don't drain water... and it stays on.. you killed the warranty on the fuel system.
If it stays on (even with no water draining out) go to dealer immediately and report that problem.
Just like in other thread you have posted on. You have no idea what you are talking about. Well the help you make a 800hp beast? You bet, But you can learn more about your truck for the diesel websites (the right ones ofcourse) then most ford techs.
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Turtle n Peeps
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NewsW wrote:Kip81 wrote:If you really want to know about ford diesel motors go to powerstrokearmy.com. Most people on this forum think they know about diesel motors but they really have no clue.
That website, like many other forums, are full of people with advice on how you can void your warranty and turn your new 6.7 diesel into a door stop.
DO NOT MOD the vehicle.
DO NOT TUNE IT.
DO EXACTLY THE MAINTENANCE REQUIRED BY THE BOOK at the best diesel FORD dealer in your area.
Do not touch biodiesel.
Do not use additives except those SOLD by Ford / Motorcraft and specifically recommended for your vehicle --- keep receipts and log usage.
Do not ever drive it (e.g. pull over immediately) if the Water in fuel light comes on.)
Drain the water out immediately.
Note: Ford ECM logs the WIF light coming on... and if you do nothing and don't drain water... and it stays on.. you killed the warranty on the fuel system.
If it stays on (even with no water draining out) go to dealer immediately and report that problem.
Isn't every one of those things what Ricatic did? I thought that is what he did and, look where that got him. Answer this News, why did his insurance company have to fork over 12K?
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In Ricatic's case, the initial servicing dealer was incompetent, deemed the problem to be owner caused and denied the warranty, which caused an irreversible situation with Ford denying the warranty claim all the way up the chain of command. Rick was very lucky that his insurance company covered it.
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SoCalDesertRider wrote:In Ricatic's case, the initial servicing dealer was incompetent, deemed the problem to be owner caused and denied the warranty, which caused an irreversible situation with Ford denying the warranty claim all the way up the chain of command. Rick was very lucky that his insurance company covered it.
I believe Ricatic claim was Ford could have done something, but never did. FMC could have overrode the 1st dealer but never did. Ford could have done a lot of things but never did. Hence the "shame on Ford."
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NewsW
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SoCalDesertRider wrote:In Ricatic's case, the initial servicing dealer was incompetent, deemed the problem to be owner caused and denied the warranty, which caused an irreversible situation with Ford denying the warranty claim all the way up the chain of command. Rick was very lucky that his insurance company covered it.
I reviewed the warranty approval protocol for that failure and the specifics of rick's case quite carefully.
My conclusion is that it came down to some freckle faced kid who was charged to drain some fuel out of the water fuel separator.
There was no evidence that proper procedures were used such as a sterile bottle, or that significant quantities of water was found.
There is no WIF indication according to rick (which at that time was not logged in ECM).
Most importantly, there was no evidence that they disassembled the pump to find evidence of rust (rick has the pump, and he did disassemble it --- but there was no word of rust in the pump).
I personally know that rick would not use biodiesel --- because, rightly or wrongly, the last time his truck blew up was immediately after he got a tank of B10? (rick... what was it???).
Now, I am of the opinion that the last failure is related --- to the biodiesel, but the evidence was inconclusive based on his information.
So we are down to the denial based on a drop of water reported by a flunkie.
Based on what we know about the quality of dealer techs (or the lack thereof), I find it hard to believe that rick is responsible.
Furthermore, I have credible evidence of a group of fleet vehicles that had the same problem --- and they were meticulously maintained and used by experienced techs who was very careful where they bought diesel.
Put this all together --- the warranty denial was flawed and not done in accordance with Ford policy.
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ricatic
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News's representation of my issues with Ford is quite accurate. His recollection of my only intentional B10 biodiesel experience is also spot on.
T&P- News can not really answer that "why" question...but I will. Even though the insurance company was quite sure they were actually paying a warranty claim, they were satisfied that the paperwork adamantly supported by Ford was sufficient enough to provide comprehensive coverage for my repair...Ford would not budge from the "inadvertent and unfortunate exposure of the HPFP to water" mantra.
Keep in mind that FOMOCO has not seen the inside of my HPFP or the rest of the parts that conclusively prove no presence of water in the fuel system. They were not interested in tearing down the HPFP to actually see what was inside. Why??? Speculatively speaking, they knew there was no water. Dealer number two proved that conclusively. If they had went further into their investigation, they would have completely exposed the crooked dealer...and he is too big to make angry...thus the sacrifice of one very loyal Ford owner on the alter of big business.
The moral of this story is simple. It will not matter how well you know your dealer, how many Ford's are sitting in your driveway, loyalty to the point of never owning anything but a Ford in your lifetime or the mere fact that you are right. Ford does not really care about any of it's customers.
The verified count on confirmed sales kills directly tied to my story has reached 91 Ford Super Duty's and one F 150 EcoBoost.That truck sale was my neighbor and he went to GM. Not to a million dollars in lost profits yet...but I'm getting close...
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