Dick_B wrote: Do the same parks charge for additional people over two per site?
Some do.....
2004 Damon Intruder 369W Workhorse Chassis
Mods: LCD TV in Bedroom, Steer-Safe, Winegard Wingman, Bulk LP Gas Adapter for my Camp Chef Grill, Cobra 29 LX LE CB 50th Anniversary Radio with a 3' Firestick NGP Antenna, EEZRV Products TPMS
Every time my dog does his business, I try to pick it up, along with another which was left by some inconsiderate jerk. I rarely have trouble finding that other one to pick up....... I've "barked" at others myself when I've seen them just walk away from their own dog's mess. I've also turned a few of them in to the CG admins. It's a real sore spot with me.........
Paul & Sandra
New Bedford, MA
2003 Monaco Executive M43 DS2
We are at Gulf State park right now. And the folks directly accross from us have a small yappy dog. That has barked constantly since we got here on Sunday. I am considering feeding it to the alligators. Since my friendly approach was shunned by them. The inconsiderate Five percent are the one that ruin it for everyone.
having traveled in all 48 lower states, i can tell you that far too many dog owners don't pick up after their pets, don't have them on leashes, and tie them outside and let them bark. we are a dog owner. when i'm asked if i have a dog by a campground owner, i reply yes, and we clean up after her, do not allow her to run off leash, and keep her inside when not walking her.
my next question is if he enforces his rules. most do not. they just complain.
i have had people come into my site to let their pet use the grass in front of the camper. i have had unleashed dogs try to bite us or attack our dog while walking.
my favorite is the guy (normally) say "he's friendly, he wont bite" i reply" my lawyer isnt friendly, and he does bite". this always gets me a nasty look, but they normally call their dog and go away.
any unleashed dog is a danger, to you or your dog. if i see an unleashed dog, i tell the pet owner and the campground owner that every county has a leash law and it does apply to THEM. the legal cost could be enormous, if a serious attack occurs.
all this is on the surface an irritation to most, but it can become serious very fast. it can screw up a vacation or work trip very fast.
everyone should remind the campground owner that he should enforce his own rules before he and the pet owner land in hot water. i have on occasion called the law when we felt threatened. campground owners really dont like that, but when you pay for a site, you are entitled to have the owner live up to his side of the agreement. you do not have to leave.
Their campground..their rules. We have never had to pay for our maltipoo..but if that's their rule, so be it.
We have rental cabins on the Frio River in Texas, but we don't allow pets (and I love pets) mostly for liability reasons. Some people are just downright scared of dogs..you can see the fear in their eyes when they are near a dog. My wife used to be one of those people, she was attacked by dog as we were walking in a park with the owner right by the dog. (hard as heck to get to a dog when your wife is climbing on your shoulders to get away)
If we run into a campground that won't let us stay because of the dog, no big deal, just move on. Life's way to short to sweat the small stuff.
"All it takes for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"
John & Kathy & Gizmo (maltipoo)
1999 38ft Monaco Diplomat DP
Leakey, Tx (Texas Hill Country)
I don't mind any extra charge as long as it is included in their advertisement in Woodalls, Good Sam's or any other place they advertise. I hate to drive out of my way to an RV park, or even the few times I make a reservation, and then be told when I arrive......"oh, by the way, there is an extra charge for WIFI, pets, extra people, extra length, etc."
As long as I know up front what the charges are, I can decide whether to stay at that park or not.
We have always traveled with a dog sometimes two and I can't remember ever being charged an adder because of a dog. Maybe I need to pay closer attention to the bill.
So you are enjoying the beautiful RV park, sitting in your nice lawn chair outside enjoying a cool one and the neighbor's dog in the RV next door comes over unexpectedly and bites you several times. You need emergency care. Now who do you think will pay the bill? By the time you get back from emergency care the next door RVer is going to be long gone. Money for pet insurance that the RV park needs to carry has to be paid by someone. How about all the pet owners because we don't know which pets are good and bad.
We do not charge for pets, but they do cost the park a lot of money.
A few costs
Labor to mow, water and clean pet area
Pet waste bags
Re-sod pet area every three years, since urine kills the grass
clean sites where owners too lazy to go to pet area
customer satisfaction credits for people disturbed by non-stop barking, pet waste in their sites that either we missed when we serviced the site after the last owner left, or someone just let's their dog go in other people's site
Repair or replace sprinklers, water spigots and trees where people tie out their dogs and the dogs run and break the pipes or girdle the tree.
Insurance is more.
As for cats, the most expensive repair I have ever had from an animal is a cat repair. Someone decided it was a good idea to empty their litter boxes (plural) down the sewer connection. I had to dig up the lines, and cut out about 10 feet of pipe that was completely plugged with the clay litter. The lines were backed up, we had to tell people to not dump for the entire day. The repairs cost about $500 in equipment, another $500 in labor, a couple of hundred in parts and a whole lot of bad customer satisfaction when people couldn't use their sewers.
bluwtr49 wrote: I read all the comments and have heard people say "my dogs never bark because they trained" however the reality is that when they leave the dogs locked in the coach while they go sightseeing, the dogs start barking at the slightest provocation and the owners go into denial.
Granted there are a few that actually do behave but it's much more rare than the owners care to acknowledge.
Same with kids being allowed to run through others sites, it's "oh, aren't they having a good time, they're so cute".
So yes, do charge extra for dogs and kids. There are plenty of campgrounds that cater to families and pets.
^^^This.
We just witnessed this over the Memorial Day weekend when a couple left their beloved "my dog doesn't bark" pet in the trailer while they went sight seeing for five hours. Multiple people complained to the office and they tried to reach them but could not. Upon their arrival back at camp they were approached and confronted about the dog. The pet owners got very belligerent with the camp hosts and then they were asked to leave.
They would not leave because they had paid for the entire weekend and this was only the second day of the four day weekend. Eventually the local Sheriff was called in to help them get on their way. It was actually quite comical as they made complete a$$es of themselves.
From my observation for about every one descent/good pet owner there are about ten that are not.
Not everyone enjoys pets. We have some friends that own a campground and they have told us that they would rather not have any pets but choose instead to charge a couple of dollars extra in the hopes that people will either leave their pets home or choose to go elsewhere. They told the wife and I that the worse offenders are the ones who so adamantly say theirs do not bark or that they pick up after them.
I personally could care less one way or the other as long as I don't have to hear them or see their s**t in my campsite. Then it is a different story.