Bedlam wrote: Although I had seen some some outside of WA, I could not find a dealer that was interested in selling or showing one to me in my area. In my search, I found Intech, Millennium and Feather Lite had lighter versions using aluminum frames that could still haul heavy loads, but ended up with a TC and enclosed trailer combination for more flexibility.
I had to get a hold of Forest River to find a dealer in AlaskaThey are just now starting to show up on the west coast it is mainly a mid-west to east coast brand. they are not insulated on the side walls so they may not take hold in the Pacific northwest
We lived in Eagle River and bought a 40 footer gooseneck in the same color scheme as the OPs while we lived there. Towed it all over the Kenai Peninsula. It was VERY cold to camp in. The insulation was aweful and fit and finish was utilitarian. We ended up selling it and buying a 4 season fifth wheel. It looked cool, but we couldn't say much beyond that for it. They are perfect, though, if you need a trailer with a large payload capacity. The ramp and car hauler part of them are sturdy. The one thing I do miss was the heavy duty hydraulic dual jacks that could have lifted a house. Most fifth wheels/toyhaulers have jacks that are too spindly in my opinion. The black skin and flames generated a lot of conversation where ever we went.
Definitely not trying to knock Work and Plays, just didn't feel it was the right trailer for Alaska and didn't fit our style. I always felt it would have fit in awesome parked at a race track.
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Even our Weekend Warrior is not insulated that well and the windows are worst offenders. Our Arctic Fox much more comfortable in heat and cold.
I was ready to buy a larger toy hauler this year, but Work and Play made it too hard to spend my money with them so they didn't get a fair comparison to the companies that did make an effort with me.
There were no dealers in the Pacific Northwest. I found my trailer on the internet through a dealer in Fort Worth Texas. We made me a road trip out of it and drove to pick it up. I just discoverd that Portland Oregon has a new Dealer that carries Work and Play.
The Work and Play is not a four seasons trailer but it is insulated. The roof is R7 and the walls are 1" FRP.
NICE.
We wanted a 30WR and drove 100 mile to look at one and got bait an switch but in the end glad we did. in Feb of 2010 we picked up a 07 28BD. Layout is a bit smaller then the WR it has double bed with one against the wall and has no dinning table. After using it most every weekend in the summer to haul my race car I'm not sure the WR would have been a good choice the BD can be hard to get in to crowded pits at times.
We love are Work and Play! No love for the Dealer but we have a better guy local when needed but thankfully not much needs work on a W&P Solid units
I had a Fleetwood Tioga and traded it for a 2010 25ULA almost exactly two years ago. We really enjoy it as it fits most of our needs. Typically we do 4 or 5 family trips each year and the ULA has more available floorspace than the Tioga (with slide) had which is nice for the wife, kids, and dog.
I have motorcycles, so can load them up for guy trips, and can also pull my 4 wheeler in for trips to hunting camp. During hunting season I pull the trailer to camp and park it - I took it up last weekend and will bring it home in late December. The coated floor is much better than carpet in this situation.
FYI - the 25ULA is advertised as 1/2 ton towable, which is the primary reason I chose it, and I do pull it regularly behind a 2010 RAM 1500 with 5.7 Litre Hemi, with tow package (3.92 rear). I have an Equal-i-zer 12,000 lb weight distribution hitch. Once I got the hitch adjusted correctly (lots of trial and error) I've found the RAM pulls this trailer well. Balanced, level, no sway, and able to drive at interstate speeds comfortably.
WITH THAT SAID, even though it works, my next tow vehicle will be a 2500 diesel. The hemi drops to about 7-8 mpg and with a 22 gallon tank, I have to stop too frequently for gas. And even though within tow capacity, I think I will feel safer when loaded with gear in a larger pickup. Another note, behind the 1/2 ton, the ULA tows much better when loaded with a toy or about a half tank of water. It moves the weight off of the tongue and the ride is a bit smoother.
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Updating an old post - sorry for the resurrection.
Our deer camp is on a private ranch that has been in the family for more than 50 years - located in east/central Oklahoma. There had never been an incident of burglary or vandalism, until...........this year. After leaving camp the first week of January, with plans to go back two weeks later to bring the camper home, someone came in overnight and broke into mine, and two other campers, the garage, ranch manager's house, and a barn. Guessing they got away with $20K+ in "stuff". They did $4,000 in damage to my camper tearing the electronics from the walls, etc., and also took another $1,500 in odds and ends. Disgusted is a vast understatement.
I went up the following day and towed the camper, still behind the 1500 RAM, back to Fort Worth. There was a pretty good south wind that day, and the HEMI was sucking the go-go juice. I had to stop half way and fill up the 22 gallon tank, and was empty when I got home (fyi, just shy of 40 gallons in 215 miles - do the math). I had had enough, sooooo........
While the camper is in the repair shop, I broke down last week and traded for a new 2500 Dodge, Crew Cab, with 4th gen 6.7 Liter Cummins. It will be several weeks before I get the camper back, but I am looking forward to seeing the difference in towing. The HEMI made 390 HP, with 400 pounds of torque. The Cummins is listed at 350 HP, but 800 pounds of torque.
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Chlirod wrote: Updating an old post - sorry for the resurrection.
Our deer camp is on a private ranch that has been in the family for more than 50 years - located in east/central Oklahoma. There had never been an incident of burglary or vandalism, until...........this year. After leaving camp the first week of January, with plans to go back two weeks later to bring the camper home, someone came in overnight and broke into mine, and two other campers, the garage, ranch manager's house, and a barn. Guessing they got away with $20K+ in "stuff". They did $4,000 in damage to my camper tearing the electronics from the walls, etc., and also took another $1,500 in odds and ends. Disgusted is a vast understatement.
I went up the following day and towed the camper, still behind the 1500 RAM, back to Fort Worth. There was a pretty good south wind that day, and the HEMI was sucking the go-go juice. I had to stop half way and fill up the 22 gallon tank, and was empty when I got home (fyi, just shy of 40 gallons in 215 miles - do the math). I had had enough, sooooo........
While the camper is in the repair shop, I broke down last week and traded for a new 2500 Dodge, Crew Cab, with 4th gen 6.7 Liter Cummings. It will be several weeks before I get the camper back, but I am looking forward to seeing the difference in towing. The HEMI made 390 HP, with 400 pounds of torque. The Cummins is listed at 350 HP, but 800 pounds of torque.
Nothing infuriates me more than a thief. But on the other hand, you will see a "night and day" difference between those two trucks.
I got my Work and Play back from repair shop today! I can't say enough about the great work North Texas RV Repair does, and the fantastic client service. They contacted me weekly to let me know the status of parts, detailed the inside of the TH, and washed/waxed exterior. All four tires were checked to confirm proper air pressure, and since I had a new tow vehicle, they worked with me to make sure the WDH was properly adjusted. If you need repairs, these guys are top-notch.
Also, as said, this was the first time I had pulled the TH with the 3/4 ton Cummins. One word - WOW! No white knuckles, no sway, no bounce, and no excess shifting. Towed at 65-70 and it looks like I was averaging 12 or 13 mpg. Will have to confirm on a longer trip, but anything over 7 is a bonus and makes me happy!
Here is a grainy iPhone photo I took while hooking up.
I can't wait to get the wife and kids out for an excursion!
Hi Chlirod good looking Work & Play. Mine is currently in the shop because the neighbors tree across the street feel on to the camper. It did a little over $11,000 worth of damage. I spoke with the service manager yesterday and he said that I should get it back in about 2 weeks. Just in time for summer camping. The front cap had to be replaced, roof replaced, one of the curve moldings down one side at the top had to be replaced and it did quite a bit of damage to the bedroom. Below are a couple of photos of the tree on the camper.
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Oh man! Did you hear that happen? If a tree falls on your Toyhauler and there is no one there to hear it, does it make a sound?
Sorry to see the damage to a beautiful W&P, but glad you are getting it back soon. Mine was in the shop for about a month and a half. Most of that time was waiting for the new door from Forest River to replace the one that the burglars damaged when prying open. It also had finger print dust all over outside and in, so the detail was much appreciated.
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