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Until there is some fact-based scientific evidence presented, I'm not buying it. There are just far, far too many variables involved for a hasty generalization such as that.

Here's another good analogy: it's my recommendation that you replace all the wood your house is built from every 10 years. Wood gets dry over time and that makes it more brittle. You wouldn't want your house to collapse, would you? Seems better safe then sorry, right?

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Posted: 07/15/12 07:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

gijoecam wrote:

Until there is some fact-based scientific evidence presented, I'm not buying it. There are just far, far too many variables involved for a hasty generalization such as that.

Here's another good analogy: it's my recommendation that you replace all the wood your house is built from every 10 years. Wood gets dry over time and that makes it more brittle. You wouldn't want your house to collapse, would you? Seems better safe then sorry, right?


The original link's recommendations and claims comes from Carlisle themselves, not Discount Tire. Discount just reposted the info. on their site.

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On a cheaply made Chinese trailer tire, I would say 3 to 5 year replacement regardless of wear is a good idea. My buddy had a 5 yr old GY Marathon on his fiver blowout a few weeks ago. Other than age, the tire had no signs of wear, cracking, etc. He ran them at proper psi, below 65mph. Bottom line is that most ST's are junk and RV manufacturers put the cheapest ones on they can buy.
Unless they are replaced with better tires, you might as well plan on replacing them every 3 to 5 yrs, period.
I just upgraded my 3 year old Towmax D's to Maxxi E's. I think knew it was just a matter of time before one of mine blew and I didn't want to be a a statistic.


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Posted: 07/15/12 10:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Three years from the date of manufacture or 3 years from when they were put into service? I have a Maxxis spare tire dated November of 2010, first aired up in Feburary of 2011 and has been in the spare tire carrier under my trailer until today when I used it to replace a 5 year old Denman tire that developed a bubble under the tread.

As a side not tire pressure monitoring systems are great. Aired up all my tires to 75 prior to a 400 mile trip. When I was taking it back to storage I noticed 1'tire was 4 pounds lower than the others so I checked it out and found the tread starting to separate (bubble in the tread). This is the third time the TPM system has indicated a problem to me prior to a blow out, the other two times were pressure loss while driving due to picking up a nail in the tire.


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Posted: 07/15/12 04:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The warranty I got from Carlisle was 3 years from the day I bought them at discount.

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pcassidy111 wrote:

Three years from the date of manufacture or 3 years from when they were put into service? I have a Maxxis spare tire dated November of 2010, first aired up in Feburary of 2011 and has been in the spare tire carrier under my trailer until today when I used it to replace a 5 year old Denman tire that developed a bubble under the tread.

As a side not tire pressure monitoring systems are great. Aired up all my tires to 75 prior to a 400 mile trip. When I was taking it back to storage I noticed 1'tire was 4 pounds lower than the others so I checked it out and found the tread starting to separate (bubble in the tread). This is the third time the TPM system has indicated a problem to me prior to a blow out, the other two times were pressure loss while driving due to picking up a nail in the tire.


Thanks for the monitor sys report. I've been considering them. They are cheaper than even one blowout that damages trailer structure.

I think probably 90 plus percent of blowouts occur only after recent airloss and subsequent overheating. The other ten percent after a severe bruise, curbs, potholes etc. In this respect, I don't think most folks know what happened and that is why the belief that they "blow for no reason", or "they are too old" persists. But in all cases, I'll bet that the tire temperature rises just before they go, even on tires with damaged belts from impact.

The monitor system on my wifes' 2007 car has caught low tires due to nails several times. Thanks be to government interference in consumer products.

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RVUSA wrote:

A segment from the show Truck U. It takes all I have to watch these two dorks act like they are teaching you something from their own experience, but the segment is good for info. about tire construction.

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While there definitely is some marketing technobabble I would say 90 to 95% of what they say is basically good info.


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RVUSA wrote:

A segment from the show Truck U. It takes all I have to watch these two dorks act like they are teaching you something from their own experience, but the segment is good for info. about tire construction.

clicky


While there definitely is some marketing technobabble I would say 90 to 95% of what they say is basically good info.

Agree with rvusa. The same info can be found on Carlisle website. The two dorks lost all credibility when they say a LT can't be used on a trailer along with a couple of other half truths.

They simply spewed the same speil as we see on Carlisle "NEW" website.

As far as the new Carlisle tire radial trail RH tech goes lets hope Carlisle gets it right. Time will tell


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JIMNLIN wrote:

As far as the new Carlisle tire radial trail RH tech goes lets hope Carlisle gets it right. Time will tell


LOL I believe I am hoping that more than most as I have 4 of their radials on the 5th wheel. I put them on in FL. before I went to CA, sat there for 4 months and then ran to PA.

Luckily they didnt blow when I hit 80 a couple times in Tx. I wasnt trying to go fast, I had just swapped from a class A and the f350 is so much easier to drive that speed creep is something I have to watch for now.

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