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two42fun2

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My tire shop was unable to change my steer tires (Goodyear G670RV 275R70 22.5)because of a Tyron (Tire ON)safety band installed. Tyron link Any help will be appreciated. I had some road damage to a steer tire and since they were worn down some anyway, I decided to replace the tires, unfortunately my local tire dealer was not able deal with this Tyron device. The dealer that I purchased the motorhome from, who installed the bands (JC's RV's, Livermore, CA) is out of business. Is there some alternate way to compress the tire without Tyron's tools? Thanks, Kevin

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two42fun2 wrote:

My tire shop was unable to change my steer tires (Goodyear G670RV 275R70 22.5)because of a Tyron (Tire ON)safety band installed. Tyron link Any help will be appreciated. I had some road damage to a steer tire and since they were worn down some anyway, I decided to replace the tires, unfortunately my local tire dealer was not able deal with this Tyron device. The dealer that I purchased the motorhome from, who installed the bands (JC's RV's, Livermore, CA) is out of business. Is there some alternate way to compress the tire without Tyron's tools? Thanks, Kevin



To my knowledge there is no place but Tyron Authorized dealears. I think CW carries them.

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By any chance did the dealer that installed them give you a mobil instation kit?, let the tire guys at the shop you are useing take a look at the link and maybe they could come up with something that would work, but by looking at the Tyron link it looks like if the tire could be compressed in just the area of the bolt that holds it in place one could lossen it and take it and the Tyron out, but don't know if it could be reinstalled the same way. It also looks like the rim needs to be surported up off of the work surface/floor enough that both tire beads can be compressed against one side of the rim. Good luck and I hope this might have helped some.

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When we bought our motorhome the dealer installed the Tyron system, and gave us a tool for the bands. It's basically a special socket that is used to remove the band when tires are replaced. The tool comes with the bands and your dealer SHOULD have given it to you.


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Thanks to all for the help. This certainly is a hot topic. Unfortunately, the local Camping World was unable to help. I am still stranded, hopefully we'll be out of here Friday. The tires I have are too rigid to be adequately compressed without special tools. My out of business dealer never gave me the socket. I think I'd still be unable to get it off because of the compression problem. I found Bill's Tires, they used to do the Tyron installs for the now out of business East Bay RV.

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They have options...

The local CW should either be on the phone with the manufacturer (Tyron) seeing about gettign a kit post-haste, or they should be on the phone with the nearest Tyron dealer getting directions so they can run the tire over to them, have it swapped, and reinstalling the new one.

The third option would be to build a rig like they show in the installation photos. It's nothing exotic, really... I could rig it up in a shop in an hour or so with some 1x2 cold-rolled bar stock. If I was really desperate, I wouldn't be opposed to trying to use some heavy-duty c-clamps on half the tire just to get the old one off. Then you could remove the Tyron band and reinstall the new tire conventionally until you could get to a shop that has the proper tools for reinstalling it.

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Just thought of a fourth option: Since they're replacing the tires anyways, tell them to send their shop rat to the local industrial supply center and pick up a couple of sawzall blades with an abrasive carbide grit edge to them. Lay the tire flat on the ground, and drill a hole in the sidewall. Insert the blade into the hole, and cut a hole in the sidewall of the tire large enough to get their hands and tools into to remove the Tyron. That'll get the old one off and new on on at least...

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You need to contact Chuck Thatcher or Sal at Tyron-USA.com. Google it if the link is broken.

They sell an installation kit. It is commonly called a SPIDER kit. The tire installer needs to break the bead on the FRONT of the wheel. If it broken on the back, that is OK. The Spider Kit compresses the tire to allow access to the band. You will need a 6mm Hex allen wrench. Loosen the bolt. You do NOT need to remove the nut. You slip the lock bar out of the groove and the band is now loose. You slip the band UP (inside the spider or the 6 legs of the kit) and then you remove the kit.

Re-install a NEW tire....then put the band on TOP of the wheel. Put the kit back on the tire and compress it. Then you expand the band and put it back in.

Several IMPORTANT THINGS....

First, When you order the kit, also order a NEW BOLT KIT (2 bolts, 2 nuts, and 4 locking bars or keepers). The Nylon Lock nut is supposed to be used only ONCE.

Second, Center the band in the well of the wheel. Make sure that you do NOT lose or get the spacers out of their holes. The spacers are to keep the band from contacting the wheel. You should end up with about half an inch of clearance on each side. If you really pull down or compress the tire using the kit, you can see the bottom (inside) or back bead. Might need a Mag Lite to look, but you want it centered.

Third, Have an Inch Pound or a LOW END Foot Pound torque wrench. You will need a LONG (4" to 6") 6mm Hex Key Socket Bit. Sears sells these or a Matco or Snap on guy has them or just look them up online. McMaster Carr and Grainger also have them. I used a 1/4" Drive socket and a calibrated Inch Pound torque wrench. The correct Torque is 10 Foot Pounds or 120 Inch Pounds. This is CRITICAL. Make sure that you torque the bolt properly or it will loosen and slide to one side or the other.

Hope this helps.....I just changed my tires yesterday and it took about an hour (total) for the front wheels....once we figured it out.

The tire changers kept wanting to do it their way.....they MIGHT get the OLD tire off...if the band is a little bit loose and will slide to one side of the well. My guy did and was really proud. However, when you install the band properly, the gap between the band and wells is too small. They tried and tried....and then gave up. A NEW tire will NOT go back on. If you have problems with a flat and they fix the tire...it MIGHT go back on. Depends on the spacing and the tire. The bead actually is a bit more flexible on the second installation.

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