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Too bad some of you got DPs with such meager heating for the bays. When the furnace is on, our bays are nice and warm and the insulation in the bay doors and foam around the opening means they stay warm for a long time. The only time we had a problem was when it is 17° in Benson, AZ one morning and that was in the water line OUTSIDE of the coach - - had to wait for the sun to hit it and melt the ice inside and then everything ran fine. So we now know to unhook the line (or wrap it in foam) if the temperature is going to be in the 20-30 range and to unhook for anything below 20°F.

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Several have mentioned small electric heaters.
I'm interested in one.
What size for 30amp service would you recommend?
I tried a 1300 watt and the plug got hot. (trying to save LP)

Thanks for any help!
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Jay Pat wrote:

Several have mentioned small electric heaters.
I'm interested in one.
What size for 30amp service would you recommend?
I tried a 1300 watt and the plug got hot. (trying to save LP)

Thanks for any help!
Pat


For years we used 2 1500 W electric heaters - Home Depot - any brand that looks nice. Generally ran them on "low" one in front and one in back along with the propane heat to heat the bays - that coach was an '04 Southwind 36E. Never had a problem so long as we remembered to shut off the heaters before running the toaster/making coffee and microwaving something - 30 amps only go so far.

They are gone now as our Phaeton has heat pumps and we do not plan to stay long where the temps are below 40, except maybe at our kids south of Charlottesville VA in the mountains. Amerigas loves us when we stay there.


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xctraveler wrote:

For years we used 2 1500 W electric heaters - Home Depot - any brand that looks nice. Generally ran them on "low" one in front and one in back along with the propane heat to heat the bays - that coach was an '04 Southwind 36E. Never had a problem so long as we remembered to shut off the heaters before running the toaster/making coffee and microwaving something - 30 amps only go so far.

They are gone now as our Phaeton has heat pumps and we do not plan to stay long where the temps are below 40, except maybe at our kids south of Charlottesville VA in the mountains. Amerigas loves us when we stay there.


Thanks! I was running the current heater on low 13,00 watts and the plug got hot.
I'm thinking, I should try a smaller unit.
Just don't know how small.
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I agree on the 2 electric heaters run on low, worked for us but temp never got below 15 deg and most days were above 40 plus we have no slide.

We did go to a thrift store to buy a cheap carpet for outside at the door snow rain and mud were a problem and you don't want to be tracking it in.

I wrapped the water hose with insulation and for temps below 28 we let the water trickle in one sink to keep the hose from freezing.

In one bay we had a 100 watt light bulb and had it covered with a clay pot never had any problems with that.

Sounds like from others you will only be below 30 deg a few days every so often it sounds like fun to me I enjoy winter camping.

Oh yeah don't know why but I did have to defrost the frig more than usual.


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Jay Pat wrote:

xctraveler wrote:

For years we used 2 1500 W electric heaters - Home Depot - any brand that looks nice. Generally ran them on "low" one in front and one in back along with the propane heat to heat the bays - that coach was an '04 Southwind 36E. Never had a problem so long as we remembered to shut off the heaters before running the toaster/making coffee and microwaving something - 30 amps only go so far.

They are gone now as our Phaeton has heat pumps and we do not plan to stay long where the temps are below 40, except maybe at our kids south of Charlottesville VA in the mountains. Amerigas loves us when we stay there.


Thanks! I was running the current heater on low 13,00 watts and the plug got hot.
I'm thinking, I should try a smaller unit.
Just don't know how small.
Pat


Most small electric heaters running on high are 1500 w while on low they are less wattage. I am assuming you meant 1300 not 13,000! If it was 13,000 you most certainly are using too much of a heater.


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sowego wrote:

Jay Pat wrote:

xctraveler wrote:

For years we used 2 1500 W electric heaters - Home Depot - any brand that looks nice. Generally ran them on "low" one in front and one in back along with the propane heat to heat the bays - that coach was an '04 Southwind 36E. Never had a problem so long as we remembered to shut off the heaters before running the toaster/making coffee and microwaving something - 30 amps only go so far.

They are gone now as our Phaeton has heat pumps and we do not plan to stay long where the temps are below 40, except maybe at our kids south of Charlottesville VA in the mountains. Amerigas loves us when we stay there.


Thanks! I was running the current heater on low 13,00 watts and the plug got hot.
I'm thinking, I should try a smaller unit.
Just don't know how small.
Pat


Most small electric heaters running on high are 1500 w while on low they are less wattage. I am assuming you meant 1300 not 13,000! If it was 13,000 you most certainly are using too much of a heater.


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The couple I sold my B700 to wintered last year in, of all places, Utah. I deleted it, but they sent me a cell phone pic of their inside/outside thermometer: outside was 3 degrees, inside was 71. They supplemented my APU & electric baseboards with a couple small LP heaters, and insulated the barrier closing off the "cab" area with 1" foam board. Unfortunately, a factory built RV usually just doesn't have the insulation I put in my buses.

Edit: some electric heaters have much lower "low" settings. 1300W is high...I have seen 600W, 900W, and 1000W. With the wiring in a typical RV, 1300W for a long period is probably pushing things a bit.


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Jarlaxle wrote:

The couple I sold my B700 to wintered last year in, of all places, Utah. I deleted it, but they sent me a cell phone pic of their inside/outside thermometer: outside was 3 degrees, inside was 71. They supplemented my APU & electric baseboards with a couple small LP heaters, and insulated the barrier closing off the "cab" area with 1" foam board. Unfortunately, a factory built RV usually just doesn't have the insulation I put in my buses.

Edit: some electric heaters have much lower "low" settings. 1300W is high...I have seen 600W, 900W, and 1000W. With the wiring in a typical RV, 1300W for a long period is probably pushing things a bit.


Thanks for the reply.
I as well, think I need a smaller unit.
Pat

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grandpalarry wrote:

My DW and I have decided to try to winter-over on the Oregon coast, about 10 miles inland.
This should be a challange but might be fun.
What can others, that have taken this project on, tell us to be ready for and what to take to be warm and dry?
We have a 34 foot motorhome, I'm told was built for and sold in Alaska, don't know how true this is, or even if the manufacturers have a special build.


I apologize!!
I didn't mean to side track your post....
For your question, I have no experiences with that cold.
Pat

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