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TxTiger

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Posted: 07/17/12 02:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2000 f250, 7.3, 6 speed manual crew cab short bed. I am considering upgrading my TT toy hauler to a fifth wheel that has a dry weight of approx 11,000 lbs and a hitch weight of approx 2,400 lbs. I am a little concerned about the hitch weight putting me over the approx 6,100 lbs rear axle limit. With what I carry, the gross weight will be around 14,000 lbs, which is the stated towing limit of my truck. I know many have towed heavier loads with similar trucks, but I don't want to get into a situation where the trailer overpowers the truck, resulting in white knuckle tows. I currently tow 7,500 to 8,000 lbs with a WDH, and everything tows great.

Any advice if this trailer is too heavy for my truck? Thanks


2000 F250, 7.3 PSD, 6 speed manual, CC, SB
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Posted: 07/17/12 02:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

It will be pushing the trucks limits.


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Posted: 07/17/12 03:08pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

14,000# will have a pin weight around 2800#

Weigh your truck ready to go camping..all passengers, full fuel tank, any stuff plus weight of 5th wheel hitch (approx 200#). That weight will tell you how much payload you have left.

6100# RAWR.....IF rear axle weight is more than 3300# ready to camp then you will be over your RAWR when hooked up to 5th wheel (also check what your tires are rated for MAX Load/MAX PSI).

My 5'vr is 14K and I am close to limits with 3500 SRW. Great tow combo/set up for me. If I went any bigger/heavier I'd be looking at a DRW.


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The rear axle rating is just the sum of the OEM tires that were put on from the factory. Probably LT265/75/16 E with a load rating of #3,050 for each tire..

I don't recall exactly, but the Visteon 10.75" full float axle has an individual rating of somewhere north of #8000... Don't quote me on that..

That all being said, it's really up to you to determine what ratings you are comfortable with going over on with your truck.. You know your truck, we don't..

You will get folks that will say "I've been towing heavier than that for years and never had a problem..." to those that will say "let me know what hwy's you are going to be on and when so I know to stay well clear of you.."

Will your truck move that load down the road? Sure it will. How you go about doing it will take some additional stuff on your truck, like some higher rated tires and probably some air bags to keep it from sagging too much.. You'll still technically over your ratings, but that's the catch here, isn't it?

Good luck with whatever you decide to do and enjoy it either way!

Mitch


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Posted: 07/17/12 03:25pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

For what it's worth, my 2004 F 250 PSD had a maximum payload of 2700 lb. Includes EVERYTHING including driver, passengers, cargo, PIN and accessories.
You'll be well overloaded.


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skipnchar wrote:

For what it's worth, my 2004 F 250 PSD had a maximum payload of 2700 lb. Includes EVERYTHING including driver, passengers, cargo, PIN and accessories.
You'll be well overloaded.


My FIL had a 99 7.3 PSD 4x4 Lariet extended cab. I think his payload was very low, like 2300 or 2400 lbs. My then F150 had a payload of about 1700 lbs. I was pretty new to payload and that kind of made me aware that a label on the fender doesn't make something capable.

Thanks!

Jeremiah


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