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gijoecam

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Posted: 07/18/12 01:04pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

the bear II wrote:

One of the problems with the Ford Escapes many years ago had to do with the tires blowing and tread wrapping around the rear axle.


Those were Explorers, not Escapes, and the tread separation didn't suddenly wrap itself around the axle and stop the wheel.

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It seems that it is slamming on the brakes that causes the problems. And I can certainly understand, I almost did that and I know better. My first thought was not blown tire. Regardless I still should not have gone for the brakes, but the event was very violent, much more than I expected.

Anyone that has had a bad experience care to share what happened and why they think it went wrong? We learn far more from our mistakes than anything else. Care to help others avoid problems? Please?

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I would never pull over on a highway and change the tire but drive until I cand get completely off the highway. I may destroy the tire but that is not a big deal compared to dying when someone drives into me while I am changing a tire. I worked with retired police officers and highway patrolmen and they all had disability injuries from being beside a car they had pulled over and another motorist driving into them. They were lucky to escape with their back injuries, most end up memorialized with sections of highways named after them.

People will say that they change tires all the time and no problems but it only takes one inattentive or drunk driver or someone busy talking or texting on their cell phone and whatever they hit is history. I see no reason to take the chance anymore than I would drive without the seat belts fastened or would disable the air bags in the vehicle. If the cars catch fire then you don't even make a viable organ donor.

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You have just not had a bad one!
Three years ago I blew a driver front tire on my F250 going 75; it was all I could do to keep from hitting the retaining wall. The truck veered very hard to the left when the tread wrapped around the axle ripping out brake line, ABS wiring, fenderwell, ect. I feel if I hadn't had both hands on the wheel and being fairly strong I would have flipped my truck so don't think yourself too smart on tire blow out recovery! Damage ended being about $4000 to my truck and that was just from the tire, I didn't hit anything.


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Someone dropped a 3 sided hitch in the road car in left lane hit it and sent in flying towards me. I was in my Toyota Sienna with a hTT bantam b19. It took out frnt and read driver side tires and the rear tire on the tandem axle. kept it straight pulled over use break on hTT to help slow from 70mph. had wife, kid,dog and in laws. Run flates helped in this situation.


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timc1207 wrote:

it was all I could do to keep from hitting the retaining wall. The truck veered very hard to the left...


Did you lift off the gas or apply the brakes? Or did you maintain throttle position or increase the throttle? I am trying to compile a set of results and real life examples are far better that what anyone thinks might happen.

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tekman741 wrote:

...It took out front and read driver side tires and the rear tire on the tandem axle. kept it straight pulled over use break on TT to help slow from 70mph...


Ouch, now that sounds like a recipe for disaster! I assume you did not use the vehicles brakes as you mentioned using the trailer brakes. What did you do in regards to the throttle?

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AO_hitech wrote:

tekman741 wrote:

...It took out front and read driver side tires and the rear tire on the tandem axle. kept it straight pulled over use break on TT to help slow from 70mph...


Ouch, now that sounds like a recipe for disaster! I assume you did not use the vehicles brakes as you mentioned using the trailer brakes. What did you do in regards to the throttle?

Thanks for the reply.

Was doing 70mph felt the van was level after impact. New if i hit the brakes that would be trouble. Trailer breaks saved us from flipping. As we slowed the van settled nicely. no sudden movements just slow and steady. That cost a $1000 in tires $500 was picked up by ins.(road hazard) and we continued on with our weekend. 6 miles from cg.

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skipnchar wrote:

So when was the last time you did it with a 4,000 lb. camper on your truck? How about with a 10,000 lb. trailer coming down a mountain road on a curve? There are LOTS of reasons for loosing control with a blowout.


That is exactly right. I had brand new tires, wrong valve stems installed by tire dealer, blow out on the left rear of the PU towing a 5Ver at about 40 MPH. Tire burst into flames. 5Ver was pushing PU sideways attempting to jack knife. I was all over 2 lanes bringing the vehicle to a stop. Did not use brakes because that would have been worse. Tire not only burned off the rim left a huge hole in the asphalt before we could get the fire out. If it had been a gas PU instead of diesel it could have been worse since the fire was near the fuel tank.

A blow out driving a small Camero? There is no comparison.


Exactly! I am in salvage yards all the time and they are full of trucks just like mine that have rolled over. They are full of 3/4 ton single rear wheel trucks that have had a blowout on the rear while towing a big fifth wheel camper that the driver lost control of and rolled over. Those scenarios can get even someone that knows what to do in trouble because even if you do everything right, there is no guarantee you won't end up a statistic. I always keep that in the back of my mind while towing my fifth wheel. There is a big difference between 80 mph and 60 mph when you have a blowout on the rear towing a heavy fifth wheel camper, so I try to not exceed the speed limit. A blowout on the rear in that situation can be as dangerous as a blowout on the front. And as was said earlier, you can't even compare a blowout on a Camaro with a truck loaded up with 12,000 lbs of RV on the back of it.

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Take a look at this video from Michelin Tires.

Michelin Blowout video

Watch "the critical factor"


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