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jbspeedracer88

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Hello all,

USDOT Number Requirements

Who must have a USDOT number?
You must mark your vehicle with a USDOT number if you operate a commercial motor vehicle transporting property or passengers interstate and/or intrastate and:
?Have a GVWR or GCVW of 10,001 lbs. or more;
?Use the vehicle to transport more than nine passengers (including the driver); or
?Use the vehicle to transport placardable amounts of hazardous materials.

See page 21 of the Commercial Motor Vehicle Guidebook.

What/who are the exceptions?
You are not required to get a USDOT number if you meet any of the following criteria:
?Your vehicle weighs less than 10,000 lbs.;
?You transport passengers and your seating capacity is eight or fewer;
?Your vehicle is farm-plated and you transport your own goods; or
?You are a private carrier transporting nonhazardous materials and your truck and/or trailer with combination weight is less than 26,001 lbs.



From Indiana here and I'm hoping to get some help in regards to a conflicting Indiana law on using my Silverado 2500HD to tow my Corn Pro Implement trailer down to Georgia and back. Can anyone make sense of this for me?

* This post was edited 07/25/12 01:16am by jbspeedracer88 *


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jbspeedracer88 wrote:

Hello all,

USDOT Number Requirements

Who must have a USDOT number?
You must mark your vehicle with a USDOT number if you operate a commercial motor vehicle transporting property or passengers interstate and/or intrastate and:
?Have a GVWR or GCVW of 10,001 lbs. or more;
?Use the vehicle to transport more than nine passengers (including the driver); or
?Use the vehicle to transport placardable amounts of hazardous materials.
Do you operate a commercial carrier?
No....then it doesn't apply


See page 21 of the Commercial Motor Vehicle Guidebook.

What/who are the exceptions?
You are not required to get a USDOT number if you meet any of the following criteria:
?Your vehicle weighs less than 10,000 lbs.;
?You transport passengers and your seating capacity is eight or fewer;
?Your vehicle is farm-plated and you transport your own goods; or
?You are a private carrier transporting nonhazardous materials and your truck and/or trailer with combination weight is less than 26,001 lbs.

Your truck GVWR.....less than 10,000Lbs?
Yes......then it doesn't apply

Does the CGVW or truck/trailer/stuff on trailer weigh less than 26,001 lbs?
Yes......doesn't apply




From Indiana here and I'm hoping to get some help in regards to a conflicting Indiana law on using my Silverado 2500HD to tow my Corn Pro Implement trailer down to Georgia and back. Can anyone make sense of this for me?



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In commerce will get you sometimes ,this is much discussed on HTD forums.
Many examples of a heavy truck used as a RV but 'in commerce' because the owner won a ribbon (horses) or a trophy.
No profit does not mean non commercial.
Race car hobbists get dinged once in a while,claiming hobby does not work either if you win anything ,they will call that 'in commerce'.
Farmer have a additional mileage circle after which they are in violation .
What is the purpose of your trip?
Your anwser is important.
hope this helps


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Doesn't matter if you win a couple hundred dollars prize, once a year. It's not every-day income from hauling, so it's not commercial. They're after hot-shotters, not one-timers.
Enjoy your trip.


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Seems to me you answered your own question in the posting the exceptions. Specifically the last sentence. On page 1 of the CDL test booklet there is a number you call for questions. One of the exceptions for farmers is,(Quote: Not used in in the operation of a common or contractor carrier motor carrier). I would make the call to Indianapolis.


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I have noticed it depends on which dot person you talk to.

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There not after hotshotters, its the RV dealers they are after. They come to Indiania and pick up their ordered trailers to save on shipping cost and have no commericial tags in place on their trucks.

I have heard it from the dealers themselfs who have been ticketed

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No Truck inspection report
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whisperide wrote:

Doesn't matter if you win a couple hundred dollars prize, once a year. It's not every-day income from hauling, so it's not commercial. They're after hot-shotters, not one-timers.
Enjoy your trip.


You would think so ,some have found out otherwize,

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Why read something "into" any law that is not there or is not in your financial interest for it to apply to you?

I find most people get stopped due to a secondary issue and then things can escalate. Keep lighting working, drive like you know what you are doing and do not be texting about your trip when driving.

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What/who are the exceptions?
You are not required to get a USDOT number if you meet any of the following criteria:
?You are a private carrier transporting nonhazardous materials and your truck and/or trailer with combination weight is less than 26,001 lbs.


If I'm running across state lines to pick up a tractor to add to my collection, that's the exemption I fall under. It's my property, I'm not hauling for hire, and my combined GVWR is 25,600lbs.


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