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cleo43

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Posted: 07/27/12 09:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I can have Bach 24 hr a day with iTunes. Thanks Apple.

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cleo43 wrote:

I can have Bach 24 hr a day with iTunes. Thanks Apple.


Are you using a Mac computer or a PC with the Windows operating system? I ask because it seems that PC users are far more likely to be dissatisfied with iTunes. I don't have iTunes on any of my PCs, but use it on my Macs.

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I use a PC computer, Windows XP. The beauty of it is you don't have to pay a cent for Apple (don't need iPod, iPhone, iPad...). I profit from Apple while I can, it's rare by the way (CUSP printing is another good freebie from Apple).

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From CNET

Bonjour, also known as zero-configuration networking, enables automatic discovery of computers, devices, and services on IP networks. Bonjour uses industry standard IP protocols to allow devices to automatically discover each other without the need to enter IP addresses or configure DNS servers.

Bonjour for Windows includes a plugin to discover advertised HTTP servers using Internet Explorer. Click the Bonjour icon in the Internet Explorer toolbar to enable Bonjour browsing. If you have Bonjour devices on your local network with embedded HTTP (Web) servers, they will appear in the list.

The Bonjour Printer Wizard is also included and allows Windows computers to print to Bonjour networked printers, including USB shared printers connected to the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express Base Stations. Since Apple first launched Bonjour in 2002, every major maker of network printers has adopted Bonjour. With the Bonjour Printer Wizard, computers using Windows can also experience the benefits of effortlessly discovering and printing to these Bonjour printers.





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You have to be very vigilant when you want to download a desirable program these days as stuff tries to come in on it's coat tails. Firefox is a good example. If you search "download firefox" and do not pick the mozilla website you have to make sure you uncheck all the boxes so you don't get extra crap. Another example is cute pdf creator. You cannot download it any more from their official web site unless you take the ask toolbar.

Yes Apple does want to do the same thing and put extras on your computer. I got the bounjour apple program when I put my HP drivers in. That way it will work with a Mac too.

I absolutely want to disagree with the poster saying itunes is close to malware. Wow, you are calling a programe - serive that has changed the World in a good way close to malware. Like Steve Jobs I have and continue to update my vynil LP collection and listen to LP records all the time. But I love the fact that I have all 15,000 of my digital music songs in a small usable package. I also love the fact that for a very small charge I "clouded" all my music, Apple upgraded most to 240 bps, and now can access my digital collection easily from my Ipad, Ipod touch, and so on. I am not an Apple acolite. I still use Windows OC and Linux, but if I could afford it I would switch all my computers to Apple in a flash. Ooops, did I say flash. Flash is now persona non grata.


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RFCN2: If you are referring to me, I called it Bloatware not even close to malware. If it was some one else, I apologize.
Bloatware is software that includes products you don't need or want but gets installed anyway. In Itunes on a PC, it includes Quicktime, Bonjour, Mobile support, and at one time Safari (until the complaints got to loud). For myself, I don't need, want, or use any of them but I get them back anytime I update Itunes and have to use Revo uninstaller to get rid of them.

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Readytogo - It was not you and they did use the term malware. I do agree the Itunes is bloated. The additional programs Quicktime, Bonjour, Mobile support, and Safari are options. (I could be wrong on Bounjour) but I know the others you just uncheck the boxes on install. I tunes could be much smaller, but I really like what it can do so I have it insalled on the computer where I keep the bloatware. Like Itunes and Outlook. On the computer I use all the time I do not have Itunes.

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Yeah, don't drink the Apple Kool-Aid. Go ahead and delete the Apple stuff.. It's just a tease to get you use to the Apple way.

Once you get use to perfect integration of ... everything... it's hard to go back to PC minus the Apple add ons.

Bloatware to one person, is a smooth running, seamlessly integrated system to others.

Windows does run better on my Mac than any other PC system I have personally owned. (When I absolutely have to have it for work )

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jerem0621 wrote:

Yeah, don't drink the Apple Kool-Aid. Go ahead and delete the Apple stuff.. It's just a tease to get you use to the Apple way.

Once you get use to perfect integration of ... everything... it's hard to go back to PC minus the Apple add ons.

Bloatware to one person, is a smooth running, seamlessly integrated system to others.

Windows does run better on my Mac than any other PC system I have personally owned. (When I absolutely have to have it for work )

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Couldn't have said it better myself. That, in a nutshell, is the way it is. Bonjour allows for seamless, truly plug and play, integration of network devices and resources. It gives Windows PC's the same plug and play networking of resources, as is enjoyed by Mac users, as opposed to their standard "plug and pray".

In most case, as soon as you uninstall QuickTime you will probably access a site that requires it in order to properly display multimedia content...with more adopting it all the time.

As an IT professional, who has administered a massive enterprise network that uses both Macs and PCs, I find it absolutely comical that anyone who routinely uses the bloated OS that is Windows, would characterize iTunes, QuickTime, or Bonjour as "bloatware" or "malware". The Apple footprint is insignificant compared to all of the other clumsily integrated bits and pieces, drivers, and continually snowballing updates on a Windows machine.


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AstroRig57 wrote:

jerem0621 wrote:

Yeah, don't drink the Apple Kool-Aid. Go ahead and delete the Apple stuff.. It's just a tease to get you use to the Apple way.

Once you get use to perfect integration of ... everything... it's hard to go back to PC minus the Apple add ons.

Bloatware to one person, is a smooth running, seamlessly integrated system to others.

Windows does run better on my Mac than any other PC system I have personally owned. (When I absolutely have to have it for work )

Sent from my MacBook Pro.


Couldn't have said it better myself. That, in a nutshell, is the way it is. Bonjour allows for seamless, truly plug and play, integration of network devices and resources. It gives Windows PC's the same plug and play networking of resources, as is enjoyed by Mac users, as opposed to their standard "plug and pray".

In most case, as soon as you uninstall QuickTime you will probably access a site that requires it in order to properly display multimedia content...with more adopting it all the time.

As an IT professional, who has administered a massive enterprise network that uses both Macs and PCs, I find it absolutely comical that anyone who routinely uses the bloated OS that is Windows, would characterize iTunes, QuickTime, or Bonjour as "bloatware" or "malware". The Apple footprint is insignificant compared to all of the other clumsily integrated bits and pieces, drivers, and continually snowballing updates on a Windows machine.

Easy fanboy, you're starting to hyperventilate.

Just as an aside, I've never come across a site that uses Quicktime, but lots that use Flash.


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