Most tire failures are caused by someone scrubing the side wall against curb's or other objects. This is what causes the failures. I use china made tires and they work great! Mosto f the stuff we have is made in china. Look around your house. With out China we would not have anything nowdays.
Mile High wrote: Why would the other tire support the full load? It may have been a rim with some rubber on it, but that wheel was still carrying it's full share of the load!
When the sidewall goes the tire no longer offers any support. It wasnt carrying any weight.
But the load was not transferred to the other tire, it was transfered to the wheel itself! Maybe axle won't drop far enough if you lost the whole wheel, but the tire? Cmon!
The wishbone wont allow that much travel will it?
Depends on the length of the equilizer bar. Distance between the axles (tire gap) determines the length of the EB/shackle. The longer the EB/shackle the lower the axle/hub can drop.
I've lost wheels on equipment trailers (broken centers/sheared lugs/etc) with the long equilizer bar and the hubs would drag the pavement.
Axles with short equilizer bars didn't drag the pavement but were close.
A tandam axle trailer running interstae speed at nite puts on quite a sparks show when the shredded tire is gone and wheel starts rolling on pavement.
I don't/won't use any trailer with a torsion type suspension but some say the hubs will set on the ground when the wheel and jack is removed.
The equilizer bar simply allows a multi axle trailer to step over or through obstacles/a ditch .... to some extent.
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Desert Captain wrote: If Chinese tires were half as bad as the high speed nitwits would have you believe everyone on this forum would have had multiple blowouts by now...
it is unlikely that you will ever have a tire failure beyond a simple flat (I have had 3 in as many years).
wait, what?
I think he is one of those nitwits that blame all blowouts on operator error, recklessness and neglect. It certainly can't be the tire's fault, it's built to specs.
No, I don't blame all blowouts...but if you choose to run any tire, regardless of where it is made, at 10 to 15 mph (or more), above its max rating you are asking for a blowout. Like they say, be careful what you wish for.
Yes, I do believe that the majority of tire failures are the result of a mix of operator error, recklessness and neglect. How else do you explain the overwhelming majority of tires that do not fail? I guess we are both nitwits, you of the high speed persuasion and I, one who chooses to operate within the safe limits of my equipment and common sense. BTW: I also drive the speed limit...what a concept. So which of us is more likley to have a tire problem?
Oh, now we are 10 -15 -or MORE above the rating. Amazing how a story gets imbellished.
Let me clear something up before you throw your nitwits around at me! I don't recall saying I ran over the ratings so how did I become of the high speed persuasion. I was defending the attacks on the OP that seem to focus the entire blame of his tire failure on his poor judgement rather than acknowledging the fact these ST tires themselves are an accident waiting to happen. I don't even run ST tires so I'm not necessarily limited to your limits.
I do question your common sense if you ever knowingly replaced a set of tires on an 5er with another set of ST tires.
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wildwood32 wrote: Well add another victim to the Goodyear china bomb killer.Traveling back from Colorado in 95 temps and there she went,lucky for me I caught it right away and got it slowed way down before she tore anything up,just. A lot of sweat and som tears getting it changed.now worried about the other 3 as I turn around and leave net week for a guys weekend at Iowa Speedway for a Nationwide NASCAR race.I hope the bomber has gone away.I have decided to not push it and stay around 65mph instead of the 75 mph I was going.
You know driving constantly at 75 MPH has made all of your remaining tires potential early failure risks. The one in tandem with the failed one is at extremely high risk from the overload it sustained when fully supporting the weight on that side of the trailer when its partner failed.
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Why would the other tire support the full load? It may have been a rim with some rubber on it, but that wheel was still carrying it's full share of the load!
Wildwood - you should replace all of your tires immediately, and the lug studs probably got stressed a little so replace those too, and the wheels were made in China so I'm sure they are shot as well. You really should look at the stress you put on the springs, shackles, your pin box....and you need to replace your hitch as it was not designed to drag a 3 wheel trailer. If you really get down to it, your truck is toast. Sorry - it all has to go.
Shame - Shaaaaaaaame on you for overspeeding those tires
I think you are getting a bit carried away! Tires yes, inspect wheels yes. Inspect running gear yes.
You must not have caught the satire, eh? I'm all for replacing the tire and movin on with the rest of the vacation!
"Oh, now we are 10 -15 -or MORE above the rating. Amazing how a story gets imbellished.
Let me clear something up before you throw your nitwits around at me! I don't recall saying I ran over the ratings so how did I become of the high speed persuasion. I was defending the attacks on the OP that seem to focus the entire blame of his tire failure on his poor judgement rather than acknowledging the fact these ST tires themselves are an accident waiting to happen. I don't even run ST tires so I'm not necessarily limited to your limits.
I do question your common sense if you ever knowingly replaced a set of tires on an 5er with another set of ST tires. "
The Op admitted to 10 mph over and every day I see "high speed nitwits" going faster than that. The only way my "nitwits" (a pretty tame adjective as Internet Forums go - been called worse many times). remark affects you is if you are one that exceeds the speed rating of his tires. If you don't then the comment could not possibly be directed at you.
Most ST tires including the ones from China are not an accident waiting to happen. If you maintain the proper pressure, don't overload or speed they work just fine. A lot of folks don't and when something goers wrong it is just a little too easy to blame those darned China Bomb's and that may or may not have been the case.
Not sure about your last comment as I have never owned a fiver. My 22' TT came with Chinese tires and as noted I will be replacing them with Maxxis' in September. After 3 years and 15,000 miles there is no cracking, they hold 50# psi very well and the tread is fine.
Desert Captain wrote: Not sure about your last comment as I have never owned a fiver. My 22' TT came with Chinese tires and as noted I will be replacing them with Maxxis' in September. After 3 years and 15,000 miles there is no cracking, they hold 50# psi very well and the tread is fine.
Now the truth comes out, a Cessna pilot trying to tell 737 pilot what he did wrong! You're not even in the same weight class so cmon! It's good you don't tow a 22' TT over 60, they get a little squirrely, kind of like a U-haul trailer.
I run ST tires on my boat trailer and never had a problem either, but you can see from the "fifth wheel" side of the forum that blowouts on ST tires are predominate and although there is a lot of chatter from the peanut gallery regarding curbs and speed and inflation, the fact is they are poorly manufactured tires and have no place on an 8 ton vehicle.
When you have a fifth wheel, "darned China Bombs" would be considered a pretty tame adjective.
Desert Captain wrote: Not sure about your last comment as I have never owned a fiver. My 22' TT came with Chinese tires and as noted I will be replacing them with Maxxis' in September. After 3 years and 15,000 miles there is no cracking, they hold 50# psi very well and the tread is fine.
Now the truth comes out, a Cessna pilot trying to tell 737 pilot what he did wrong! You're not even in the same weight class so cmon! It's good you don't tow a 22' TT over 60, they get a little squirrely, kind of like a U-haul trailer.
I run ST tires on my boat trailer and never had a problem either, but you can see from the "fifth wheel" side of the forum that blowouts on ST tires are predominate and although there is a lot of chatter from the peanut gallery regarding curbs and speed and inflation, the fact is they are poorly manufactured tires and have no place on an 8 ton vehicle.
When you have a fifth wheel, "darned China Bombs" would be considered a pretty tame adjective.
LMAO!
So I am a tiny little Cesna Pilot from the Peanut gallery. I guess avoiding contact with curbs, staying within your speed limitations and proper inflation are all irrelevant to tire safety. Yep size matters and bet you can pee farther than me too.
If you want to trash all ST tires it's OK with me but perhaps you can tell me why so many fiver manufacturers put ST tires on their trailers (since most ST's come from China)?? Actually I really don't give a rat's hat. Run whatever you like but if keep them within their limits, properly inflated and drive the speed limit they and you, will last a lot longer.
Desert Captain wrote: If you want to trash all ST tires it's OK with me but perhaps you can tell me why so many fiver manufacturers put ST tires on their trailers (since most ST's come from China)??
uuhhhh - because they are dirt cheap?
And yes, I will run whatever I like. I don't remember needing your permission.
If you can't drive a tire just 10 miles over the "recommended" limit then it was pretty poor engineering on ANY tire manf.
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I have had all my GY tire replaced on my 5ver in the short two years I've had it. All five rolled the cords and bulged out. Surprisingly, I don't believe the spare had ever seen the ground till I put it on about a year and half ago. Granted , they were reaching the age limit which in my opinion is too damn short for the limited use rv tires get. Overall construction is the problem here. The spare which I replaced this spring also split on the edge of the tread as well just hanging on the rear bumper.
I just can't bring myself to buy another "good for a year" tire.
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Yep size matters and bet you can pee farther than me too. 
