Here in America, I have to schedule my physical exams 3-4 months out.
Interesting When I finally decided to have my first knee joint replaced I went to see my Orthopedic surgeon on a Friday the next Friday I was home with the new knee. My second new Knee took a whole month though.
Brother in law lives in Denmark and their wonderful socialized medicine took a year for his knee job.
Canadian doctors are NOT government employees. The government FUNDS health care to the provinces who in turn fund hospitals and pay the fees that doctors submit for seeing patients at their offices performing surgeries etc. The health boards set the fees that doctors are paid per procedure but doctors are free to charge patients either higher or additional fees IF the patients are willing to use that doctor vs one who stays on the fee schedule. Mant pay for supplementary health plans to cover these additional fees, semi private hospitalization, dental and prescription costs. My add-on plan costs $90.00 per month for the extras but all my basic health care is no charge (paid through taxes) My nominal tax rate as a senior is 12% on pension income. This is one of the things that is more than likely less expensive.
Look, I'll be the first to admit our country isn't doing it all right! We welcome and take care of anyone the shows up and that includes the lazy Americans that feed off the system.... All this drives the cost of insurance way up! You don't work you don't eat and you shouldn't make me pay for it. Hold on... there are kids, women, vets, and so on that do deserve help but too many that don't deserve squat ruin it for everyone.
The Doctors deserve all the money there getting... we are the crazy ones that fill the stadiums at football games... and watch these guys get 20 million a year, and I love sports but my doctor is way more important than any quarterback!
Sorry, but like others have said it all washes out in the end with all your high prices and so on..... The differance is I don't see these incredible doctors flocking to Canada to practice there, and not that you don't have good doctors but with gov. health-care you will never be a country always on the cutting edge of new cure's.
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Canadian doctors are NOT government employees. The government FUNDS health care to the provinces who in turn fund hospitals and pay the fees that doctors submit for seeing patients at their offices performing surgeries etc. The health boards set the fees that doctors are paid per procedure but doctors are free to charge patients either higher or additional fees IF the patients are willing to use that doctor vs one who stays on the fee schedule. Mant pay for supplementary health plans to cover these additional fees, semi private hospitalization, dental and prescription costs. My add-on plan costs $90.00 per month for the extras but all my basic health care is no charge (paid through taxes) My nominal tax rate as a senior is 12% on pension income. This is one of the things that is more than likely less expensive.
Look, I'll be the first to admit our country isn't doing it all right! We welcome and take care of anyone the shows up and that includes the lazy Americans that feed off the system.... All this drives the cost of insurance way up! You don't work you don't eat and you shouldn't make me pay for it. Hold on... there are kids, women, vets, and so on that do deserve help but too many that don't deserve squat ruin it for everyone.
The Doctors deserve all the money there getting... we are the crazy ones that fill the stadiums at football games... and watch these guys get 20 million a year, and I love sports but my doctor is way more important than any quarterback!
Sorry, but like others have said it all washes out in the end with all your high prices and so on..... The differance is I don't see these incredible doctors flocking to Canada to practice there, and not that you don't have good doctors but with gov. health-care you will never be a country always on the cutting edge of new cure's.
And yet we live longer...by about two and a half years...and our lifespans are getting longer and yours shorter. Mexicos average life span is a couple years shorter than US life spans right now. It is expected to also surpass the US within two decades. There is obviously more to this story but I suspect there are experts out there that can explain this phenomenon. Another strange statistic popped up that showed Americans living within 100 kilometers of the Mexican or Canadian border live longer lives than the rest. Kinda wierd.
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I love my insurance. It is part of the wage package. I see who I want even a specialist first without seeing a MD for a referral.
My wife saw a Orthopedic DR on a Tues, Wed she had a MRI and Thur she had an orthoscopic knee surgury. Not an emergency. This guy is a Sports Doc that treats the famous athletes.
I will say it again, I have talked to a lot of Canadian Snow Birders and not a one of them know of anyone that has had a knee or hip replacement. I know a couple of Canadians that have came to the US to get them done because they were old and put on a waiting list and were in a lot of pain and did not want to wait.
Glad you are happy with your FREE health care I will be happy to keep paying for mine.
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Here in America, I have to schedule my physical exams 3-4 months out.
Talk to people in the real world and you will see all stats can be twisted to reality. How many were not approved????
Within our family there have been a few. Longest wait was 11 weeks and shortest three weeks. I recently had to wait 3 weeks for a low priority ultrasound. Seems reasonable to me. The longest I have waited in a walk in clinic was about 20 minutes. There is always room for improvement but for our extended family so far so good.
Here in America, I have to schedule my physical exams 3-4 months out.
Talk to people in the real world and you will see all stats can be twisted to reality. How many were not approved????
Within our family there have been a few. Longest wait was 11 weeks and shortest three weeks. I recently had to wait 3 weeks for a low priority ultrasound. Seems reasonable to me. The longest I have waited in a walk in clinic was about 20 minutes. There is always room for improvement but for our extended family so far so good.
We have never ever waited more than a few minutes for an ultrasound. Every where we have been has them. "seems reasonable" Not to me! I would be knocking on some doors, if you need an ultrasound for any reason you should not have to wait on it.
camperforlife wrote: Amusing read. Americans telling the Canadians how long they have to wait for healthcare but no Canadians complaining about the wait. Either the Americans have it wrong or the Canadians don't mind waiting. I wonder which it is? How long does an uninsured or uninsurable American have to wait for a major surgery? Inquiring minds want to know.
Had the same discussion with my neighbor's brother today. He was telling me how the Canadians dislike their health care system. I asked him how he knew that and he said he read it in the newspaper. But he doesn't get a newspaper. I told him that the Canadians that I talk to are happy with their system and he went stomping off to his pickup. And yes, I know no Canadians that are not happy except for a very small number who are not happy about anything.
Besides, this thread is all about the GST and the HST and then there are some provincial sales taxes, depending on which province. And you think prices are bad there, take a look at Great Britain or Europe. That makes Canadian prices look good.
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Here in America, I have to schedule my physical exams 3-4 months out.
Talk to people in the real world and you will see all stats can be twisted to reality. How many were not approved????
Within our family there have been a few. Longest wait was 11 weeks and shortest three weeks. I recently had to wait 3 weeks for a low priority ultrasound. Seems reasonable to me. The longest I have waited in a walk in clinic was about 20 minutes. There is always room for improvement but for our extended family so far so good.
We have never ever waited more than a few minutes for an ultrasound. Every where we have been has them. "seems reasonable" Not to me! I would be knocking on some doors, if you need an ultrasound for any reason you should not have to wait on it.
You must be paying a small fortune for health insurance then. And that is the biggest problem in this country - the health insurance racket!!! And a racket it is!!! You could almost call it organized crime. If you don't have insurance, prices are higher than if you do!!! Blackmail in my book and price fixing in my book. And now we have doctors refusing sick people who only have Medicare. People who have worked all their lives are turned away cause they don't have private insurance.
Cummins12V98 wrote: I will say it again, I have talked to a lot of Canadian Snow Birders and not a one of them know of anyone that has had a knee or hip replacement. I know a couple of Canadians that have came to the US to get them done because they were old and put on a waiting list and were in a lot of pain and did not want to wait.
This thread turned political a long time ago and that sounds just like the party line talking!!
We in America all ready have a Canadian style Health Care System...it is called Medicare. I for one do not know why Medicare was not expanded to all as opposed to creating a new health law. Medicare covers the basics and you may purchase supplemental insurance for more coverage, a single payer system is the way to go, IMHO.
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