bcbigfoot wrote: ....The US joined the allied war effort to look out after it's own intrest not to defend anyone...
The US joined the allied war effort after the Japanese took an opportunistic chance that we weren't looking... We weren't.
In exchange, we totally kicked their a$$ and made an example of them.
Yes. However, it is significant to note that, after the war, the US committed huge resources to assist in the rebuilding of both Germany and Japan. A country "looking out for its own interests" would have scavenged these countries for their remaining wealth instead. In fact, it was one of our own manufacturing geniuses, Dr. W. Edwards Deming, who taught the Japanese to beat us at our own manufacturing game.
In the US, ½ of households required to file annual personal income tax forms end up owing no taxes due to very low income (perhaps some untaxable welfare income) and/or moderate income with many tax exemptions for large families, handicapped members, etc.
Does Canada also support a tax system where only half its residents personally participate in paying income tax? Is welfare much different than in the US?
I think the case is that most Canadians are required to participate in paying personal taxes and thus make 'free' healthcare a reality that our US welfare society cannot afford.
Cedarhill wrote: Interesting, if somewhat biased, perspective.
Guilty as charged, it is a biased perspective, it is a perspective gained from researching history from different countries perspectives for the past 10 years, it is a perspective gained by my Russian wife telling me that listening to Fox news makes her physically ill because it sounds so much like Soviet propoganda. While walking reading and listening to the information in a titan 2 misile complex in Tuson AZ, my wife said it was a mirror image of the propoganda that was feed to her by the Soviets. My perspective is from a realization that all goverments feed us bias propoganda to control how we act and think, and that the only way to counter this is to question everything and get as much information from as many different sorces as possible.
bcbigfoot wrote: ....The US joined the allied war effort to look out after it's own intrest not to defend anyone...
The US joined the allied war effort after the Japanese took an opportunistic chance that we weren't looking... We weren't.
In exchange, we totally kicked their a$$ and made an example of them.
Yes. However, it is significant to note that, after the war, the US committed huge resources to assist in the rebuilding of both Germany and Japan. A country "looking out for its own interests" would have scavenged these countries for their remaining wealth instead. In fact, it was one of our own manufacturing geniuses, Dr. W. Edwards Deming, who taught the Japanese to beat us at our own manufacturing game.
It made sense to rebuild Japan and Germany. We needed TVs and fuel injection systems.
....As far as the Soviet threat. There wouldn't have been one if the US/west had any empathy for a country that had just lost over 10% of it's population to war, the general population was so truamatized and paranoid of war they would do anything to avoid it, thier politians used the same propoganda as western politians and that was to tell people the only way to avoid war/nuclear war was to have a bigger deterant than the other side.....
On a tour of St Petersburg with a multinational group our Russian tour guide told us, "Communism killed more Russians than Hitler".
I'm very sure "Empathy" with the Communists would not have helped.
Your thoughts mirror those of many British Colombians we've met. Your thoughts do not mirror the thoughts of the many Albertans we know.
True and false, Stalin/Soviet Union was a dictator/dictatorship disguised as Socialism that would eventually down the road arrive at Communism (so the people were told). So Stalin and his gang murdered more Soviets than Hitler not Communism.
The reality is all countries are a hybrid of capitalism and socialism. Look at China, it has many charateristics of Capitalism, Billionaires, entrenpenuers, a form of free enterprise in fact one could argue it is a Capitalistic dictatorship. The US has many characteristic's of both as well, like National Parks system, Military, CIA, FBI, Fire and Police, Education systems, Nationlized finacial system since it was back stopped by the US goverment a Republican president to boot. The list goes on, to hear a American say Canada or Europe countries are socialist countries because we have health care system is really very silly.
Many Russian's are aware of US empathy, generosity displayed in the early 1920's when thousand's of tons of food and medical suplies were sent to Russia after a Stalin/civil war induced famine this food this gerosity/empathy saved 100,000's of thousand's of Russian lives.
Which recieved more goodwill, famine relief or med range nukes along the Turkish in the early to mid 1950's.
Sea Dog wrote: Trying to explain the Canadian health care system
to Americans is a total wate of time!
Well, for the sake of friendly info exchange, why not take a stab at it? Only costs you a few keystrokes.
I don't think so!
Any prior attempt invariably deteriorates into an American
lecture concerning Canadian socialism, lack of self defence,
sheeple ruled by a queen,death squads,
and all around misrepresentation.
Not to mention the mythical hordes of Canadians fleeing to America
for life saving procedures denied them by their government.
It is easier to turn straw into gold
than to convince an American that there are actualy alternatives
to their rich guys system.
Actually, if you look at my last couple-three posts, you'll see that I am trying to make (and have a Canadian help confirm) the point that Canadians have a stronger middle-class with a higher per capita income than US, and that there is far less welfare. This means
a) there is more money to sustain a true universal health-care system, and
b) there is more money chasing somewhat scarcer goods (due to a spread out populace), which might address the OP'S question of higher goods and services prices.
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