Quote: I am missing the swivel chair, but we are going to fix that by putting the cab passenger seat on an aftermarket swivel mount.
That approach works best when there is no, or very little, floor height difference between the cab floor and the coach floor.
So called "basement" type Class C construction makes this floor height difference so great as to mean the person sitting in the swiveled passenger chair will be sitting very low in the coach area relative to anyone else and will have their legs nearly straight out in front of them.
Basement construction provides generous outside compartments, however. Our 24 footer is built this way so a swivel passenger chair would not be too useful, but otherwise we love our taller outside storage cabinets.
The coach floor has about a 4" to 6" step up fropm the cab, but the idea is to have a kind of "barcalounger" arangement for this spot so it should work. All needed to complete is one of those square ottoman-like pillows to put under my feet. This unit has another floor kick-up behind the dinette, to allow for those taller pass-throughs on the rear compartments and also provide room for heated holding tanks.
We chose a Tioga 26Q model back in 2003 and have been generally happy with it, rear bedroom with RV queen bed, huge lighted rear cargo area with spare tire, dinette, overhead bed, swivel chair and nice galley accomodations. We often take it to a local park for picnic with dogs, etc. Any longer would be less useful to us. Parking in malls, etc on the road is not usually a problem. We don't tow. If we ever need a car, we'll rent one. Differences in parking a 24 -27 foot rig are small. We recently bent our rig around some really tight turns on US-101 in northern CA and Oregon with no problems
Quote: I am missing the swivel chair, but we are going to fix that by putting the cab passenger seat on an aftermarket swivel mount.
That approach works best when there is no, or very little, floor height difference between the cab floor and the coach floor.
So called "basement" type Class C construction makes this floor height difference so great as to mean the person sitting in the swiveled passenger chair will be sitting very low in the coach area relative to anyone else and will have their legs nearly straight out in front of them.
Basement construction provides generous outside compartments, however. Our 24 footer is built this way so a swivel passenger chair would not be too useful, but otherwise we love our taller outside storage cabinets.
Depends on the RV. My Navion seats also go up and down so when you spin them around you just raise them all the way and it's a non event.
Quote: I am missing the swivel chair, but we are going to fix that by putting the cab passenger seat on an aftermarket swivel mount.
That approach works best when there is no, or very little, floor height difference between the cab floor and the coach floor.
So called "basement" type Class C construction makes this floor height difference so great as to mean the person sitting in the swiveled passenger chair will be sitting very low in the coach area relative to anyone else and will have their legs nearly straight out in front of them.
Basement construction provides generous outside compartments, however. Our 24 footer is built this way so a swivel passenger chair would not be too useful, but otherwise we love our taller outside storage cabinets.
Depends on the RV. My Navion seats also go up and down so when you spin them around you just raise them all the way and it's a non event.
hey dak,
do you have levelers or rear stabilzers on your sprinter
Quote: My Navion seats also go up and down so when you spin them around you just raise them all the way and it's a non event.
That up/down adjustment indeed does take care of the floor height difference on swiveling passenger chairs. Your Navion passenger seat probably has a power pedestal?
For years I've looked for a simple mechanical swivel plus up/down passenger seat pedestal replacement for our Ford's cabin and as of yet haven't been able to locate one.
All I want is something like these that also have a height adjustment - it doesn't seem like rocket science for an after-market manufacturer to offer it for less than $200:
Quote: I am missing the swivel chair, but we are going to fix that by putting the cab passenger seat on an aftermarket swivel mount.
That approach works best when there is no, or very little, floor height difference between the cab floor and the coach floor.
So called "basement" type Class C construction makes this floor height difference so great as to mean the person sitting in the swiveled passenger chair will be sitting very low in the coach area relative to anyone else and will have their legs nearly straight out in front of them.
Basement construction provides generous outside compartments, however. Our 24 footer is built this way so a swivel passenger chair would not be too useful, but otherwise we love our taller outside storage cabinets.
Depends on the RV. My Navion seats also go up and down so when you spin them around you just raise them all the way and it's a non event.
hey dak,
do you have levelers or rear stabilzers on your sprinter
Quote: My Navion seats also go up and down so when you spin them around you just raise them all the way and it's a non event.
That up/down adjustment indeed does take care of the floor height difference on swiveling passenger chairs. Your Navion passenger seat probably has a power pedestal?
For years I've looked for a simple mechanical swivel plus up/down passenger seat pedestal replacement for our Ford's cabin and as of yet haven't been able to locate one.
All I want is something like these that also have a height adjustment - it doesnt' seem like rocket science for an after-market manufacturer to offer it for less than $200:
They are manual. One "pumps" a lever and the seat climbs or descends a "ramp" (for lack of a better description). It will actually be moving forward or aft when this is happening so you have to make a fore/aft adjustment after setting the height.
We have a similar story to pnichols with slight variation.
Our rig measures front-to-back exactly 23'-8". I don't consider it ideal for getting around in to go "everywhere". I feel the shorter version of ours HERE at 21'-2" better suited for going solo. All Phoenix Cruisers are scaled down in width & height which does make them easier to park, but are less spacious inside because of it.
We had these requirements.
- under 10' over-all height, 25' max length (to fit in our garage)
- accomodate two adults
- permanent main floor double bed (I admit a bigger bed would be nicer than what we have)
- permanent standard dinette
- standard bathroom
- nice size fridge with separate freezer
- practical sink & stove
- plenty of storage
- built with some level of quality
Is that great looking lounge chair in your 2350 photos (your "THIS" link) loose or screwed to the floor?
I don't believe you have a slide - right?
I just wonder why PC won't offer a 24 footer with their great single piece fiberglass nose shell but enlarged and extended so as to have a full bed up there? That would really be a nice offering along with the 2350's otherwise excellent floor plan.
How do your tank capacities compare to our Itasca's: 46 gal fresh, 39 gal black, 29 gal grey, and 18 gal propane?
Is that great looking lounge chair in your 2350 photos (your "THIS" link) loose or screwed to the floor?
I don't believe you have a slide - right?
I just wonder why PC won't offer a 24 footer with their great single piece fiberglass nose shell but enlarged and extended so as to have a full bed up there? That would really be a nice offering along with the 2350's otherwise excellent floor plan.
How do your tank capacities compare to our Itasca's: 46 gal fresh, 39 gal black, 29 gal grey, and 18 gal propane?
I just got the scoop on that euro-chair from PC owners who have it. It is securely clamped to the chassis frame. The clamp easily comes off for convenience. The clamp must be removed so one can move the chair away from the wall to recline. The chair does not come with a seat belt so it should not be used while in transit.
The 3rd captain seat we replaced our barrel chair with is bolted to the chassis frame and comes with a seat belt. It is designed for a passenger in transit.
We elected not to have a slideout on our rig, but the slideout is a very popular option, especially after the company included the fridge in the slideout. I think less than 10% are made without a slideout these days.
About the cab-over bed, I think the company has used that aero-cap for 13 years as I have seen 1999 models with it. I wonder if they would do something special upon request, installing something big for two adults up top.
Only by request, they offer a loft utilizing the aero-cap. It is small, good for a adolescent child (maybe two small kids) or pet, or a place to dump lots of bulk items. The roof of the van would not get cut away making it safer in a roll-over accident. Of coarse then you'd have to watch your head when getting in and out from the front.
Capacities are pretty much unchanged over the years and do vary pending the model, but model 2350 today is...
- 38 gal fresh water (my 2007 has 41 gallons)
- 23 gal gray water
- 35 gal black water
- 10 gal LP gas
Your Itasca is a bit better with all capacities, exceptional with LP. If we were winter campers, we'd be hurting for that extra 18 gallons as the furnace is a very thirsty appliance.
We go on 3 week trips either in the spring, summer, or fall. We sometimes use the furnace at night when electric isn't available for our heat strip, especially in high altitude areas, but never used constantly. We fill up with propane once during our trips during the 3rd week. I could see filling propane every 4-5 days if winter camping without hookups.
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