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bullmastifflover

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Posted: 07/30/12 06:53pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The helmet thing is not that big of a deal for us, but I am a little concerned about this portion:

38604. A person operating a recreational off-highway vehicle shall not
ride with a passenger, unless the passenger, while seated upright with his
or her back against the seatback with both feet flat on the floorboard, can
grasp the occupant handhold with the seatbelt and shoulder belt or safety
harness properly fastened.

I've seen plenty of small children in baby seats or 5 point harnesses that look perfectly safe, but their feet don't reach the floor and hands probably don't reach a grab bar. I suppose families will have to take a break for a few years until their kids legs are long enough to reach the floor or one parent can go and the other will have to stay back at camp with the kids...that sucks.

Thinking about dune buggies, I think it wouldn't be too difficult to come up with a way to make a higher floor or an adjustable foot rest that can move as the kid's legs grow.

* This post was edited 07/30/12 07:11pm by bullmastifflover *


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Posted: 07/30/12 07:37pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I admit I virtually always wear a helmet when I ride my RZR, and installed a 5 point harness in place of the factory seatbelts. I do this because of injuries I've had friends and riding partners experience that are things I choose to try and avoid as much as possible. I also wear them because my personality and riding style are such that I have a high probability of needing them at some point in the future.

That said, it bothers me to have someone tell me I have to do it. I'm big enough to analyze the risks myself, and don't need big brother trying to run my life for me.

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make no mistake, this law has VERY little to do with safety and EVERYTHING to do with revenue generation.


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AND......
since Kawasucki decided to back this bill, It'll be a long cold day in hell before I ever buy a green machine.
Aw hell, I wasn't going to buy a kawi anyway.

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You give an inch and they try to take 10 miles. It is sad, but when you compromise, you give more and more control to those that don't have any reason to need it.

I for one am under the assumption that you solve all the rapes, homocides, drug trafficing, illegal imigrants, and everything else under the sun not related to family recreation first. Then tell me what is for my own good.


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What a disaster. This state is making it so hard for us to enjoy this sport. I ride quads and dirt bikes and of course always wear a helmet. I too do not like big brother telling me what to do, I can make my own decisions. I agree it is plenty safe as it stands now, and those babies in car seats look safe as well. Just makes me angry. Nobody who actively participates in this sport would create an F'ed up bill like this.


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Yes I have a problem with it ! You will to when your required to wear one in your car to go to work or the store. Don't think so ? Who knows what's next . Up until now it was real simple, if it has handlebars you wear a helmet, if it has a steering wheel you don't.

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What about a handicapped person that has no legs or arms, how will they be able to comply? We discussed this with our attorney on a conference call last night and the ADA angle is the best attack position.

Not owning a SXS I'm not one to comment much, other than just another attack on our personal freedoms.


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I wonder if you get your stuff registered street legal then you can say that it's not primarily for off road use. I imagine the only jeeps they can go after are those that are registered for off road use. I see plenty of people duning in Broncos...wonder if they will be messed with. If I'm in a jeep and taking kids and pull off road that means I need to wear a helmet? Lame...especially if you are just going to the sand drags or driving to camp.

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Cal folks, I'm a bit surprised this happened under the radar it seems. Did this pass under the CORVA radar?


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