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2bzy2c wrote:

Thanks for the write up. You fixed the fogging issue for the moment, but there is
still moisture in between the glass. You did nothing to dry out the inside. My fear is the fogging will return soon.

Sorry, don't mean to be Buzz Kill, but the internal moisture has to be dealt with.


Other people that have done this report no fogging after 3yrs usage.
For the money, it's sure worth a try for me.

You guys with deep pockets can just pay the glass man or the RV dealer to fix it for you

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Lobstah wrote:

2bzy2c wrote:

Thanks for the write up. You fixed the fogging issue for the moment, but there is
still moisture in between the glass. You did nothing to dry out the inside. My fear is the fogging will return soon.

Sorry, don't mean to be Buzz Kill, but the internal moisture has to be dealt with.


Other people that have done this report no fogging after 3yrs usage.
For the money, it's sure worth a try for me.

You guys with deep pockets can just pay the glass man or the RV dealer to fix it for you

Jim


I don't have deep pockets, just experience repairing these fogged glass pains. I tried at the time I was "fixing" them to fine the "swizzles" so I could replace them and do it right but couldn't. So I re-used them, only to have the condensation return in less than a year. That was on my old 93 Bounder, on my Islander, I only have two windows than might need attention just because of a "crawling seal", but I'll live with that as long as no condensation gets in.





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To insert inert gas... You need to leave two spots not sealed,

You need a MIG welder's gas supply

Force gas in to one of the two spots, till you are satisified that the spece between the glass is all inert, then seal the other opening, then while pulling your insertation needle out quickly seal the other opening.

Not hard, but not easy either.

The insertation needle.. A basketball needle will do.

That said. I don't think inert gas will help with moisture if you got it dry enough to begin with.


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You can buy small cans of inert gas. I used to get canned nitrogen to use in the darkroom to help partially filled bottles get the air out. I think the one I got last year is argon for around $10. per canister. Yes I stil do my own darkroom work.


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I think that the manufacturers of RVs know what they're doing by NOT ordering gas filled dbl paned windows (although some offer it as an option). That's because, unlike a sticks and bricks, it's a MOVING HOUSE. And roads in this country are no longer thousands of miles of perfect. The bouncing around these things get not only cause seal leaks in windows, but also break chassis parts, loosen cabinets from the walls, throw dishes out of the cabinets, throw you in the air, pop lug nuts loose, etc.

I wouldn't waste money on gassing my dbl paned windows as it's a waste of time and money.

No offense, it's just that it doesn't make sense to me to put gas in the windows of an RV, because it's being driven and bounced around all the time. Many sticks and bricks homes windows with gas develop leaks just sitting there. I was a realtor in Oregon and saw the stains many times.


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Jim@HiTek wrote:

...Many sticks and bricks homes windows with gas develop leaks just sitting there. I was a realtor in Oregon and saw the stains many times.


Stains?


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JanLiz wrote:

The spacer of the glass contains a desiccant which acts as the absorber of the moisture in the airspace. The seal is critical but if the dessicant is saturated, the moisture will not be drawn into it. The white haze is the result of the calcium in the desiccant dispersing on the interior of the glass and staining it. Gas filled units are an option on residential windows as it creates a denser air space. It is unlikely any unit in a vehicle will have a gas filled air space. Edgetech Super Spacer is the company that manufactures the spacer. www.edgetechig.com


Thanks for the info, and you are correct. As I stated in my write-up, I could not find the correct size spacer so I reused the old spacers. Last week we were traveling in central Florida where the nights were cool and days were fairly warm. I have a small amount of visible moisture in one of the windows I repaired. Under some conditions, it is not visible, but in the mornings there is visible moisture. If I try to repair another one, I will use new spacers.

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I just had two windows repaired by Suncoast Designs in Hudson, FL. $424 for two windows, remove, resell and re-install. They just use compressed air between the panes. Guaranteed for 10 years, prorated. They press the panes together with 150 psi pressure to set the new seal.

Most of the time is cleaning the glass.

They have about 12 water and electric sites for customers. Also a dump station but DO NOT USE. It will only take about a gallon before it pukes it back up and sprays about a 3' circle around the hole.

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