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Topic: What tt gvwr can I safely pull with my F150?

Posted By: Rockatansky on 08/01/12 05:12pm

Hello, I'm wanting to pull a travel trailer with my current truck. It's a 2009 Ford F150 Supercab 4x4 with tow package 3.31 axle and a GVWR of 7,200 and a GCWR of 14,000. I wanting to find a Travel trailer in a dry weight of 4,000 lbs with a possible wet weight of 5500lbs max, I do see some trailers claiming 3,800 lbs dry with a max gvwr of 7,000 lbs. I don't see myself needing more then a 1,000 lbs of cargo including water for the rv, maybe a little more or less. Can I pull either of those travel trailers comfortably with my truck?


Posted By: Old-Biscuit on 08/01/12 05:16pm

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Posted By: skipnchar on 08/01/12 07:54pm

You can tow up to 100% of your GCVWR very safely as long as the tongue weight and other passengers, cargo etc. in the truck don't put you over the GVWR or the GAWR of the truck. That doesn't necessarily mean you will enjoy towing that much weight since you have an economy gear in the truck but there is a huge difference between SAFETY and ENJOYMENT. Either of those trailers should be just fine. Just to clarify though, the "dry weight" has nothing to do with water or other liquids. It merely refers to a trailer with NO personal gear inside of it.

Good luck / Skip


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Posted By: APT on 08/02/12 05:35am

5.4L 6-spd? 5000 pounds dry should be fine, about 6500 pounds loaded. Most people tend to add about 1000 pounds to the dry weights. Families a bit more than couples. GVWR is not that important IMHO for your situation.


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Posted By: hmknightnc on 08/01/12 05:30pm

In theory we will assume you load your truck to its maximum of 7,200# with tongue wieght, fuel, gear, and people that leaves you just under 7,000# of trailer you can pull without exceeding GCWR. So in the ranges you are looking at you should be fine. Get a good WD system to help with stability

However a 3.31 axle rating is pretty high so you might find that at the top end of the range you will be a little power challenged. That's ok with some people and not others. Depends on your personal comfort level.


Posted By: Desert Captain on 08/01/12 05:36pm

Rockatansky wrote:

Hello, I'm wanting to pull a travel trailer with my current truck. It's a 2009 Ford F150 Supercab 4x4 with tow package 3.31 axle and a GVWR of 7,200 and a GCWR of 14,000. I wanting to find a Travel trailer in a dry weight of 4,000 lbs with a possible wet weight of 5500lbs max, I do see some trailers claiming 3,800 lbs dry with a max gvwr of 7,000 lbs. I don't see myself needing more then a 1,000 lbs of cargo including water for the rv, maybe a little more or less. Can I pull either of those travel trailers comfortably with my truck?


I pull a 5600#(3600# dry), GVWR 22' TT with my 2006 F-150 5.4L SCab with the limited slip 3:55. Light load it tips the CAT scale at 4600# and heavy load (more water, firewood etc. and an extra Honda), puts the rig at 5,000# and it tows like a dream. Very comfortable ride, plenty of power, it is for me at least, the perfect combination. You lose a little with the 3:31 rear end but it won't make all that much difference. I assume you have the 5.4L and if so just put your foot into it on the grades as it makes max torque (365' #), at 3750 rpm and max HP (300) at 4400.


Posted By: phillyg on 08/02/12 08:15am

Yes.


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Posted By: John & Angela on 08/02/12 08:32am

Just a terminology correction. You are looking for the Max GVW of a trailer your truck can tow, not the GVWR.

GVW is the loaded weight of your trailer, eg..dry weight plus your junk and water, batteries propane etc.

GVWR is a rating, not a weight. Generally speaking, the bigger this number the better. The higher the number the better your brakes, tires, axles etc etc are rated. Juat like when selecting a truck look for high numbers here, not low.

For figuring out your GVW start with the dry or UVW (unloaded vehicle weight) and add a realistic number to that number. Say 1200 pounds to a 25 foot trailer. eg If the dry weight of a 25 foot trailer is 6000 pounds add 1200 pounds and count on having to tow 7200 and make decisions on your towing capacity from there. Some people like more leeway than others.


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Posted By: Beverley&Ken on 08/02/12 10:44am

Don't take the manufacturers dry weight as the true dry weight. It maybe based on the trailer before options (awning, empty propane tanks, A/C, battery, microwave etc) are put in the trailer. Weigh scales will give you the correct weight.

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Posted By: APT on 08/02/12 08:32am

Towing packages have for many years in half tons only included receiver, trans cooler or upgraded one, 7-pin wiring, and maybe different shocks. I'll take the 6-spd 3.31 over any axle ratio with a 4-spd, and I had a 5.4L 3.73 that I loved. The 6-spd has a very deep first gear, short gear spacing, so plenty of wheel torque. It will out accelerate even a 4-spd 4.56 axle truck.




Posted By: gsxr1300 on 08/02/12 03:43pm

I pulled a 2010 sunset trail 29qb with out any issue with a 2009 F150 super cab 5.4 with 3.31 gears


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Posted By: gijoecam on 08/02/12 07:28am

I'm sensing something is off with the vehicle description here... a 2009 with a 3.31 rear end and towing package? I *thought* the towing package upped the rear end to a 3.55 for the '09 model year, though I could be mistaken. It may have only provided the receiver and possibly the brake controller. I know the MAX tow package automatically upped it to the 3.73 gears. The package didn't include the mirrors until 2010 IIRC.

But, assuming a 5.4 and 3.31 gears, on paper it's capable. It's not going to set any land speed records, but it's capable.


Posted By: Rockatansky on 08/02/12 07:26am

Thanks for the responses! Yep it's a 5.4L with the 6spd. I just want to find the right TT for my truck and have a fun and enjoyable towing experience with out being stressed out me or the truck.


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