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Posted: 08/05/12 09:05pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have a 2004 Tundra V/8 4.7L, Access Cab, AT four speed, AC, Limited, 4x4, factory tow pkg, with a camper shell that is 5987 lbs at the scale ready for camping. I pull a 17' travel trailer that weighs 2600 lbs. dry weight. Wet weight would be about 3600 lbs. My almost half ton pick up pulls okay except going up steep grades, then I crawl along like a loaded 18 wheeler. I want to put an aluminum bull bumper on the front but I am concerned about the weight of the bumper as the first generation Tundra had a ball joint factory recall problem. Years back I hit a deer and it mangled the front end of my Ford Falcon, so I don't want that headache again. I put deer whistles on the front of the Tundra but they don't pay any attention to it. They seem to think it is road traffic white noise. Should I get a BIGGER truck, maybe a second generation Tundra or Dodge 2500?

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You really shouldn't have any problem with a TT that size. When you say a camper shell on the back do you mean just a cap or a truck camper? Big difference.

Don't be afraid to let the tranny drop a gear and rev high on the hills, it needs to, to get into the power band and it will do it happily all day long. I had the same engine/trans combo in my '04 4Runner and towed my 3500lbs HTT without a problem. It would accelerate easily up hills. Even pulled my current 26BHS (@6000lbs) with it for a season. Engine handled it ok too but you knew it was there.

Upgrading to a 2nd Gen Tundra would be a big step up as long as you go with the 5.7. Much bigger truck over all and a bullet proof, powerful engine. You'll never know that TT is back there, hills or not.


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Posted: 08/06/12 07:18am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Most any full sized half ton would easily do the job. Your biggest problem will be payload on the truck (since you no longer have any warranty to be concerned with). Good luck / Skip


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what rear gears do you have? I pull about 5800 lbs. and i have no issues passing the 18 wheelers, even in the Ozark mountains, with a similar size drivetrain, albeit with an extra gear in the trans.


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If you are looking for a reason to buy a new truck then here it is.

You should absolutely upgrade to a new truck. Some guy on RV.net said so.

However, your current rig sounds like a good match. Add your bumper, get the rig fully loaded weighed. If you are under your ratings you are good to go.

You have a gasser, the way it makes power is to rev, on hills let that little I force sing. No worries at all.

Even my big f350 sings at 4000-4500 rpm on big grades. No worries at all

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Something isn't right if you can't pull 3600lbs. Try pushing the gas pedal harder. You should be doing 45-55 up any mtn pass in Oregon.

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The only reason why you think your truck is struggling is if you did not keep it over 3000rpm for those climbs. Any gas engine except the 8.1L and Ecoboost will need to spin that high to pull 10000 pounds up hills and mountains.


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APT wrote:

The only reason why you think your truck is struggling is if you did not keep it over 3000rpm for those climbs. Any gas engine except the 8.1L and Ecoboost will need to spin that high to pull 10000 pounds up hills and mountains.


Bingo. The peak torque for the 4.7 is at 3400 rpms. That would be the sweet spot when climbing in Oregon. My old 5.4 was also around 3400 rpms and thats where it pulled the best going up the passes.

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My '04 Tundra (same year & options as OP) pulls the Rocky Mountan passes just fine as long as the RPM's are up in the 3000-3500 range. Turn the OD off when pulling hills.
Fully loaded with water, food, gear, dog, & famiily, my truck is 6000# and the popup is 2500#. If I recall correctly, the OP (and my) truck is rated for a GCVR of around 11000#.


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OK everyone. I have a 2011 Tundra with the 5.7L, and full tow package. Am getting ready to hook up a new 26RLS Jayco at 6300lb. dry wight.

What do you guys think of this package?

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