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campgrl

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Got the hitch on the fifth wheel. Ran into a bit of a snaf-foo though. The hitch place could not wire the harness on the rear of the fifth wheel. Could not access the wiring. I need to take it into the rv dealership so they can fish the wire through. Problem: they won't be able to do this before our trip on Sat. Does anyone know the Michigan statute regarding trailer lights? I found vehicle code on towing doubles but no where does it say anything about lights. As long as the drivers behind us can see the rv lights are we good? We won't be driving at night. Thanks!

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I cannot give you Michigan's law but in Colorado (and I bet most if not all states) if it is on the highway it better have lights. Why would you want to bring attention to yourself on your first double tow?

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when I put my wireing for pulling with my 5th I ran wires under the trailer to the J-box at the front it was the easiest way for me &
the wire was not very pricey
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You could just wire off of the tail lights from inside the lens and run the wires out the bottom of the lens until you got back and have time to wire it right.

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campgrl wrote:

Got the hitch on the fifth wheel. Ran into a bit of a snaf-foo though. The hitch place could not wire the harness on the rear of the fifth wheel. Could not access the wiring. I need to take it into the rv dealership so they can fish the wire through. Problem: they won't be able to do this before our trip on Sat. Does anyone know the Michigan statute regarding trailer lights? I found vehicle code on towing doubles but no where does it say anything about lights. As long as the drivers behind us can see the rv lights are we good? We won't be driving at night. Thanks!


Go to U-Haul and buy 2 of the bulbs with pigtails on them. Put them in place of your rv trailer bulbs and wire up the back trailer lights. Quick temporary fix anyway.


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Does the trailer you are towing have brakes? If so you may want to run a separate brake control in the TV so that would require a second wiring harness all the way to the second trailer.
I would run all the wiring under the trailer and tie into the junction box on the front. This will make the connection easy, troubleshooting easy, and not add extra load to the existing wires inside your FW's walls.
Don't tow without lights. That's just asking for trouble.

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The trailer we are towing as the double does not have brakes. It is a bass boat and weighs 1500 lbs max. The problem with wiring under the trailer is that the fifth wheel has an enclosed underbelly.

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Run it under the trailer in conduitt. Secure it where the cross members are. You should be able to see the screw heads holding up underbelly.



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campgrl wrote:

The trailer we are towing as the double does not have brakes. It is a bass boat and weighs 1500 lbs max. The problem with wiring under the trailer is that the fifth wheel has an enclosed underbelly.


Best check your state laws. In some states the second trailer is required to have brakes regardless of weight. Plus, in some states, the driver must be able to control the brakes on the second trailer!

As for the lights, again check the laws in YOUR state. Some states require lights or reflectors or red flags on any load that extends beyond 2 or 4 feet from the existing lights.
I agree, the quickest fix to hold you over until you can do it right is the light bulbs from U-Haul that have the pigtails on them.
Good luck.


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AKsnowcampers wrote:

when I put my wireing for pulling with my 5th I ran wires under the trailer to the J-box at the front it was the easiest way for me &
the wire was not very pricey
Ken


X2. I just put a female 5 way on the back of the 5ver, attached to the hitch, ran about 30' of trailer wire under the belly of the 5ver to another female 5 way. You'll have to make a short extension to plug into the front of your 5ver to the truck hitch trailer receptacle. Takes a bit of time but pretty simple. You would need some wire hangers that will let you use the underbelly screw mounts to hang the cable from.


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