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wny_pat

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Posted: 08/08/12 10:58am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Edouard wrote:

Really interested in the 2013 Ford Escape FWD, and ...........arriving here end of September, but both will require the Dolly or Pump.

Take a look at the Ford Escape Hybrid!


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The Ford hybrid vehicles are towable 4 down without any extras. We have a Mercury Mariner hybrid and a Mazda Tribute hybrid set up for towing. Both are easy to hook-up and go. Currently Ford is not making a 2013 hybrid Escape so you may have to try and find a used hybrid -- they are hard to come by because folks love them and they didn't make that many.


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Look at Ford Edge or Lincoln MKX in either 2 or 4 wheel drive mode both can be towed 4 down as a FROG.


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wa8yxm wrote:

....Remco also has an Axle Lock for FWD rides, and a Drive Shaft Disconnect.


I looked at the Axle Lock some time ago, really liked the idea.

However, I don't believe they are making the Axle Lock anymore, nor have they for some time. That is no longer an option.

The Drive Shaft Disconnect, as I understand it they sold that business/product to another company and are no longer involved with it.

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Monaco Montclair wrote:

We have a hhr--31kweight does good for us. Happy-camping


Second the HHR. As I've mentioned before, they're comfortable, good mileage, lots of space, can even put rear seat and passenger seat down and carry 8' lumber with the hatch closed. Tons of them out there on the used market, they were a popular fleet lease vehicle. We bought a 2010 in 2011, 13k miles, and 2yrs left on the warranty.

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wa8yxm wrote:

I have read of pump failures which toasted transmissions, Rare though they are they do happen (I've been on assorted forums for over 10 years, this one for six or 7) Any active device can fail.

With the current pump control system, the coach driver would likely have to completely ignore the red light on the coach dash control box and the alarm sounding off to damage the transmission. When the alarm sounds, it should be possible to make a safe stop within a mile or two, without doing any damage. Even then you're not stranded. Just start the toad engine and leave it idling in neutral while you continue on to a location where the problem can be remedied. Or disconnect the toad if you have another driver with you.


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We just bought a Ford Escape 2012 yesterday. Got a call today that there is a problem and the escape has to have a transmission pump to tow 4 down. Ford Dealer is installing a Remco Pump. Talked to Remco and they developed a specific pump for the transmission on the Ford Escape 6speed auto transmission and said that is all we need. Love the weight on the Escape and love the car. Buy American where possible.
Even if Ford was not going to put the pump in, we would have done so to be able to have the Escape.

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"GETTING MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND A NEW TOAD"

Perhaps. But, maybe one just needs to widen their acceptable parameters.
Nearly all Subaru manual transmission cars are towable.
The PT cruiser manual transmission is towable (automatic is towable on a dolly).
Nearly all 4X4 Jeeps are towable.
Many 4X4 pickups are towable.
Almost any Front Wheel Drive vehicle is towable on a dolly.
ANY vehicle is towable on a trailer, limited only by size and weight.
There ARE ways to have a toad without expensive modifications to the vehicle!

I am currently beginning a search for a good vehicle. My acceptable parameters are:
1. A used vehicle. I will NOT buy a new one!
2. I want a convertible, DW says a sunroof (or "moon roof")will be good enough.
3. It MUST be towable either four down or on a dolly. Automatic or manual tranny does not matter.
4. It must be tall enough that we can get in and out without pain.
5. It must get 25 MPG (highway) or better.
Even with requirements #4 & 5, there are a LOT of choices available!

* This post was edited 08/09/12 07:49am by mowermech *


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I hear you on #4, we had looked at a Terrian just as a daily driver but way to low. The DW and I both drive 4 X 4 pickups, mine a 99' Dodge 2500 Diesel and hers a 10' Chevy Z71(the one bought instead of the Terrian). Although both could be pulled by our MH they are both way to heavy. Leaning toward a used CJ or Wrangler. For now we rent a car when we get there.


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Keep in mind that some CJ's (late '70s/early'80s) have a transfer case that does not allow towing. The transfer case can be changed or modified for towing, though.
In my experience, a Wrangler is a great deal more comfortable than a CJ-5 or CJ-7. I have made several long trips (in excess of 1500 miles one way) in my '06 Wrangler Rubicon, with no comfort problems at all, and it follows behind the Southwind just fine.

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