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Posted: 08/09/12 07:45am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If 125,000 fans in the stands is the new normality, it's still a huge crowd. That's more than pro football and basketball attract, on average.

Indy and NASCAR posted their profits for the event, and they made plenty of money. Don't look for either to fold anytime soon.


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Everyone has some valid points. I've been a Nascar fan since I attended a race when I was thirteen I think it was around Berkley.CA.
Hudsons, Nashes, Kaisers were in the pack along with the big three. Nascar has had ite ups and downs but has changed as needed. I think going back to relatively stock Mustangs,Camaros etc could be a good idea, The TV money will probably be enough to sustain them, but ya never know! We have always enjoyed the overall Nascar deal, and certainly will not give up on it. When I was 17 I drove an MG-TC at Watkins Glen, the race was through the streets, with hay bales on the corners etc. I've neveer seen the road course, in person . I broke a spoke wheel crossing some railroad tracks for a DNF.


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Posted: 08/09/12 11:15am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cloud Dancer wrote:

If 125,000 fans in the stands is the new normality, it's still a huge crowd. That's more than pro football and basketball attract, on average.


NASCAR has one Sprint Cup event per week. The NFL has 16 games that attract at least 50,000 fans per stadium on average so their weekly attendance is a lot higher than NASCAR if you don't count truck and

I think NASCAR has a few problems, but they are still doing pretty good for the most part. The loss of 125,000 fans is still a big hit since the track/or NASCAR lost over $6 million in revenue. I also think NASCAR has been hit harder by the economy than other major sports. NASCAR attendees tend to be lower on the economic ladder than a lot of folks that attend NFL and NBA games so they maybe can't afford to attend NASCAR anymore.

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belfert wrote:

Cloud Dancer wrote:

If 125,000 fans in the stands is the new normality, it's still a huge crowd. That's more than pro football and basketball attract, on average.


NASCAR has one Sprint Cup event per week. The NFL has 16 games that attract at least 50,000 fans per stadium on average so their weekly attendance is a lot higher than NASCAR if you don't count truck and

I think NASCAR has a few problems, but they are still doing pretty good for the most part. The loss of 125,000 fans is still a big hit since the track/or NASCAR lost over $6 million in revenue. I also think NASCAR has been hit harder by the economy than other major sports. NASCAR attendees tend to be lower on the economic ladder than a lot of folks that attend NFL and NBA games so they maybe can't afford to attend NASCAR anymore.


No only that, but the inductrination and recruiting that's associated with the ball sports begins in the thousands of grade schools that are provided by other than the private sector. In other words, there's are whole lot more of them than us, including kids/dads/moms/grandparents, etc. Nobody is going to deny the childrens' education.
I have to agree, by and large the bulk of the fans and lower-tier participants of the motorsports live paycheck to meager paycheck. But, I'm confident that the motorsports will survive, even if the size shrinks.
Frankly, I don't know how they do it. I got out of racetrack ownership while the 'gittin was good'.
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And Penske's week isn't getting any better......

Bad week continues.....

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Wow, some real class acts there.

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Agreed

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Cloud Dancer wrote:

If 125,000 fans in the stands is the new normality, it's still a huge crowd. That's more than pro football and basketball attract, on average.

Indy and NASCAR posted their profits for the event, and they made plenty of money. Don't look for either to fold anytime soon.


Maybe at Bristol. But I don't think it was even that. At Indy this year it looked empty and at 125,000 is mediocre based on the size of the place. You're right with the TV rights etc. IMS does make money on this event. As long as that continues the Brickyard will continue. When it doesn't it will go the way of F1.


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I'll just keep responding to these "NASCAR failure" statements by saying that I agree that at some point in the future they will go out of business, but not today.

And, I see they might get rained out for the next 3 days,.......bummer.

Never the less, I predict there will be a great round of 10 races during 'the chase'. May the best car win,.....(that would be a Chev IMO).

GO TONY!
GO BUSCH BROTHERS!
GO KASEY!

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I agree with other's on the economical impact to the fans. Attendance will increase and decrease based on the economy just like anything else.

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