daveshan wrote: SoCal, so you're saying a '06 F-350 SRW will have 1500lbs more capacity than my 9800GVWR short bed F-250?
The Max GVWR for a 2005 F350 SRW CC 4X4 SB is 11,500#. The F350 may weigh a little more but it has an GVWR of 1700# more than the same size F250 with a 9800# GVWR. The max on a F250 is 10,000 GVWR.
Disclaimer: Now that is according to the books that Ford publishes and not my figures.
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daveshan wrote: SoCal, so you're saying a '06 F-350 SRW will have 1500lbs more capacity than my 9800GVWR short bed F-250?
The Max GVWR for a 2005 F350 SRW CC 4X4 SB is 11,500#. The F350 may weigh a little more but it has an GVWR of 1700# more than the same size F250 with a 9800# GVWR. The max on a F250 is 10,000 GVWR.
Disclaimer: Now that is according to the books that Ford publishes and not my figures.
Strange but true that 2 trucks so closely related have that much of a GVW spread.
A person who knew nothing about trucks would assume the F350 came with a heavier frame, larger brakes, stronger eng/trans combo, etc. etc...not the case.
AFAIK the only differences are in the braking systems (F350 gets hydroboost but same size rotors) and a marginally stronger rear axle in the F350.
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I can see where some people would not want to go with a DRW truck, but for the life of me I can't see why anyone would not buy a 350/3500 SRW over a 250/2500 series, especially if you know you will be hauling something heavy. There can't be that much extra difference in price. To me its just a no brainer.
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Simple, in my case it was on the lot and I was thinking in terms of tow capacity, either had way more than I needed at the time, and it was optioned the way I wanted it and the color I wanted. It was 3 years later that I even thought of putting a camper on it.
With the needs I have now I heartily agree but am in no way going to change trucks now.
daveshan wrote: SoCal, so you're saying a '06 F-350 SRW will have 1500lbs more capacity than my 9800GVWR short bed F-250?
Yes.
For '05-'11 model years, the F350SRW has 11,500 max GVWR and 7000 max RGAWR, versus the F250's max 10,000 GVWR and max 6100 RGAWR.
The F350 dually in these years has GVWR's ranging from 12,500 to 13,300 and RGAWR's ranging from 9000 to 9750.
For '99-'04 model years, the F350SRW has 9900 GVWR and 6830 RGAWR, versus the F250's 8800 GVWR and 6084 RGAWR.
The '99-'04 F350DRW pickup has max 11,500 GVWR and 8250 RGAWR.
The '99-'04 F350DRW cab/chassis has 12,500 GVWR and 9750 RGAWR.
For '80-'97 model years, the rating difference is much smaller. The F350SRW has max 9200 GVWR and 6084 RGAWR, versus the F250's 8800 GVWR, with the same 6084 RGAWR.
The '80-'97 F350DRW pickup has 10,000 GVWR and 7400 RGAWR.
The '87-'97 F350DRW cab/chassis has 11,000 GVWR and 8250 RGAWR.
The '88-'97 F-Superduty cab/chassis has 15,000 GVWR and 11,000 RGAWR.
daveshan wrote: Wow, considering the only mechanical difference in '06 was a 4" block in back instead of a 2" block that's a heck of a difference.
2" block versus 4" block was one of the mechanical differences in '99-'04 model years, along with 7" wide higher rated wheels and 265 versus 235 tires, and rear overload springs and sway bar.
For '05-'11 years, differences in rear spring packs showed up, as well as the brake booster, in addition to tires/wheels, sway bar and overload springs, so it isn't as simple as just a taller spring spacer block to make an F250 equal an F350SRW.
kerry4951 wrote: I can see where some people would not want to go with a DRW truck, but for the life of me I can't see why anyone would not buy a 350/3500 SRW over a 250/2500 series, especially if you know you will be hauling something heavy. There can't be that much extra difference in price. To me its just a no brainer.
Some states impose an onerous tax for having an F-350 or larger truck.
I wanted a large payload and 4x4 but could only get that with an F-350. For me, the extra cost for an F-350 was prohibitive. Hence, the reason why I went with a 4x2 F-250 with a 10,000 GVWR.
My next truck, when that happens, will definitely be a 4x4 F-350.
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daveshan wrote: Simple, in my case it was on the lot and I was thinking in terms of tow capacity, either had way more than I needed at the time, and it was optioned the way I wanted it and the color I wanted. It was 3 years later that I even thought of putting a camper on it.
With the needs I have now I heartily agree but am in no way going to change trucks now.
I also did not need the payload weight capacity of a 350 after moving up from 1989 Mazda B2600i. I bought my 250 to tow an 11k lb tow behind toy hauler and the SRW 350 had nothing to offer that would make it worth the extra cost and continuing additional annual tonnage fees. I did have the foresight to get the camper package which gave me overloads and a sway bar to handle heavy tongue weights better.
Strict neighborhood laws and a short 20' driveway prevented me from buying a long bed model with an extended cab but thew SC SB did allow me to park in the garage or drive.
Seven years later, the truck has been repurposed successfully for an application (truck camper) that was not even a consideration when purchased. With hindsight, I could have bought a cab/chassis 450/550 with flatbed or lowboy flatbed that could been more versatile but stretched my budget to an uncomfortable limit and required off-site storage.
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