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I recently was looking at a Crusader, 290 fifth wheeler. It is made by "Prime Time Manufacturing". Has all the amenities that family requires and can be pulled by a 1/2 ton Silverado.

I have been owned a tent,Pop-Up, and several TT's in my 30yrs of camping.

I know most of the RV manufacturers, but I have I have never heard Prime Time manufacturing.

Any information anyone has would be appreciated.

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cburgener wrote:

I recently was looking at a Crusader, 290 fifth wheeler. It is made by "Prime Time Manufacturing". Has all the amenities that family requires and can be pulled by a 1/2 ton Silverado.

I have been owned a tent,Pop-Up, and several TT's in my 30yrs of camping.

I know most of the RV manufacturers, but I have I have never heard Prime Time manufacturing.

Any information anyone has would be appreciated.

Chaarlie


Prime Time is a newer company, but seems to have a decent rep. Your dealer, however, may be selling you a bill of goods on the 1/2-ton towable clap-trap. IF the 14% dry pin/dry wt. ratio holds up at the full GVW of nearly 11,600 lbs, you're looking at > 1,600 lbs pin wt. alone, that your truck would have to carry. Add people, fuel, hitch and "stuff", and you're well > 2,000 of cargo in the truck. Not sure if even the newest 2013 models would safely handle that much. If the ratio changes as you start adding batteries, propane bottles, "stuff", etc., it could be even heavier on the pin. Again, this is =at= GVW and while you may never tow that heavy, you still have to be prepared with the knowledge of what you're getting in to in case you =do= have to tow that heavy. I've faced having to travel a couple hundred miles with full waste tanks because the dump site I was counting on was not open. That was > 800 lbs I had not counted on carrying for more than about 35 miles. With a 3/4 ton truck, I wasn't worried, but it sure cost me more than the $5 dump fee to move it the extra distance. The mantra with fifth wheels isn't what you can =tow=, it's what you can =carry=.

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A while back we were looking at a 5er - and according to the sticker on the trailer - yep, mine would work. Then I started adding what they don't add to the equation - wheels, tires, axle (that it, the unsprung weight). Next added in water, propane, living essentials. Suddenly, there was no margin on my F150 - tires, brakes, springs, 2-3 people and those other 'things' that get thrown into that pick up bed - like a 150-200 pound hitch, firewood, barby grille, extra gas, leveling planks, the family dog - etc, etc, etc. We bought a TT instead until we could swing a bigger pick up. Jump ahead a few years, we retired, the ship didn't sink on the way towards that day, so we had a few bucks, an F350 and a 34', 12,000 5er - which is plenty of truck.

What I'm trying to say is, that salesman is looking at the GVW of the trailer, the GVWR of the combination and saying sure it will haul that 5er - but what he isn't saying is that you had best not put anything in it to live your life - but once it's out of the yard, not my problem if you want to 'live'

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Not sure about your weights but what I can tell you is...I was looking at a Jayco HT which "is" half ton towable I had a 2007 silver ado 1500 crew cab 4x4 and my dealer advised against it.

His words were...it might work but what is your family worth. I upgraded truck and couldn't be happier

Back to the original question about the company it self I think most are comparable but you do get what you pay for.

Either way happy camping."..


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We own a 290rlt 2012 Crusader.We just finished a 6 week 7500 mile trip,and had no problems whatever with the trailer. We love it. I tow it with a 2012 F350 6.7. As far as towing this size trailer with a 1500 Silverado,the short answer is no.

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Way too much trailer for 1/2 ton truck.


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Look at http://www.chevrolet.com/silverado-1500-pickup-truck/features-specs/capabilities.html

I think you will be exceeding the GVWR and GCWR of your truck.
GVWR is 6400 lbs - curb weight is about 4500 lbs. The hitch will add about 200 to 300 lbs to the truck. Now add passengers, fuel and anything in the box. That will leave you with an allowable pin weight of about 1000 lbs or so.

Not sure what year of truck you have but I would be looking for a 2500 or 3500HD (go diesel).


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What hitch weighs 200-300 pounds? My Reese 15K Pro weighs in at around 70 pounds COMPLETE. That's a difference of 1-2 passengers in the truck!

Also, curb weights are "wet" weights, meaning a full tank of fuel.


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I have a Crusader that is nothing but problems, I just picked it up from the dealers because the slide wont come out (2nd time). From lights not working, landing legs breaking, leaking sinks, crushed heat ductwork, slides not coming out, toilet needed replacing, rear tire carrier constantly bends and the best yet is when the black tank broke and fell out. These are just the ones I remember. So would I but another...not a chance. Its been in the shop so much I am thinking of trading it in.



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GregK wrote:

What hitch weighs 200-300 pounds? My Reese 15K Pro weighs in at around 70 pounds COMPLETE. That's a difference of 1-2 passengers in the truck!

Also, curb weights are "wet" weights, meaning a full tank of fuel.


my superglide #4400 weighs approx 220 lbs... super rails are in addition to that.


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