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has anyone installed these? if you did, how much, how well do they work and how hard was install?


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Don't know about self leveling stabilizer jacks. Are you talking about the hydraulic or electric leveling systems like Bigfoot?


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electric. some new treilaers come with them manufactured by liggit.

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Using stabilizers for leveling results in twisted, warped frames.

Don't do it.


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camperpaul wrote:

Using stabilizers for leveling results in twisted, warped frames.

Don't do it.


What brought you to that conclusion? Frames twist and give a little from just being pulled down the road. True, if you jacked up just one corner and left the other three alone and left it like that I could see it twisting the frame over time.
OP I am in the process right now of installing the Reico Titan electric Ground Control System. It's not auto leveling but it's wireless and you control all four jacks with a remote or a plug in remote ( they give you both) I bought it from Tweety's Rv for $2500.00. It is built very heavy duty and so far I am pleased with how easy it is to install. I'm doing the install a few hours at a time on my days off so right now I have 3 hours of install time and all I have left is the front landing legs and to run the wiring back to the rear jacks.
Lippert makes almost the same product too. If fact in the pictures of it it looks just like the Reico one only more expensive.

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D&J Wade wrote:

camperpaul wrote:

Using stabilizers for leveling results in twisted, warped frames.

Don't do it.


What brought you to that conclusion? Frames twist and give a little from just being pulled down the road. True, if you jacked up just one corner and left the other three alone and left it like that I could see it twisting the frame over time.
OP I am in the process right now of installing the Reico Titan electric Ground Control System. It's not auto leveling but it's wireless and you control all four jacks with a remote or a plug in remote ( they give you both) I bought it from Tweety's Rv for $2500.00. It is built very heavy duty and so far I am pleased with how easy it is to install. I'm doing the install a few hours at a time on my days off so right now I have 3 hours of install time and all I have left is the front landing legs and to run the wiring back to the rear jacks.
Lippert makes almost the same product too. If fact in the pictures of it it looks just like the Reico one only more expensive.


Read the owner's manual for your trailer.

In the early '90s there was a problem with people who used the stabilizers to level their Airstream trailers and twisted the frames enough to pop a bunch of rivets in the roof. The damage was NOT covered by warranty because they didn't follow the instructions in the owner's manual.

There was a lengthy discussion on this on usenet. news:alt.rec.rv and news:alt.rv

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OK - so how does one "level" a trailer without using the stabilizer jacks? Funny, the dealer who sold out popup said to use them to level the trailer...

here is the product sold on the Grey Wolf trailers:
http://www.lci1.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=135igitallevelingpage&catid=34

here is the remote it comes with:
http://lippertelectronics.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=111&Itemid=148

* This post was edited 09/14/12 08:15am by jeeplj8 *

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A popup weighs very little, attempting to use the stabilizers to jack a 8k+ trailer will cause the frame to flex. Wiss it cause problems, usually not, but done enough who knows.
As far as how to level a trailer, you but blocks - plastic, wood, etc - under the low side axle(s) to level it side to side, then chock the tires, unhook and run the front jack up or down as needed to level front to rear. After the trailer is level, then you keep the unwanted movement to a minimum with the stabilizers.


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OP, the Rieco Titan system I'm putting on my 5er has you mount the rear jacks no further away than 18" from the rear axle. That way it is placing the suspension load on jacks at about the same place as the suspension. I really can't see how using them would cause damage to the frame. It replaces the front landing gear with their heavier built legs and you leave the very rear stabilizer jacks in place to just take the tension off the rear after you have the trailer level. It says to level front to back first and then side side level last. I will post some pictures of the set up on my trailer when I get back home in a few days.

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christopherglenn wrote:

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As far as how to level a trailer, you but blocks - plastic, wood, etc - under the low side axle(s) to level it side to side, then chock the tires, unhook and run the front jack up or down as needed to level front to rear. After the trailer is level, then you keep the unwanted movement to a minimum with the stabilizers.


Exactly !

The stabilizers on my trailer have a sticker on them that says they are not to be used for leveling or tire changing.

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