I am at a Farm Show in Fargo, ND, and both the MN and ND Highway Patrol had a booth together to answer questions about trucks for farmers.
My last toyhauler grossed out at 25,000#, so was under the 26,001# limit. However, the new one weighted #27,660#, full of water, ready to go.
So, I asked the officer what was needed in the way of license to pull the RV. I have a full Class A license, with Hazmat, so I did not need anything, but was wondering about others in my family pulling it.
The Officer, from MN, and with the ND Officer listening, said that as long as it was a RV, and not being used in any commercial application, that NO CDL was needed, as that ONLY applied to COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. Private RV's are NOT included in the CDL program, no matter how much they weigh.
This info sure contradicts many statements that have been made on this forum about needing a CDL license if you went over 26,001#.
In California, a California resident would need a endorsed license to properly tow a fifth wheel over a certain weight, I think it is 15,000 pounds GVWR, and over 10,000 pounds for a conventional trailer. Yes these are privately owned camping vehicles. Not for hire, ect.
Just after the California law was passed in 2008 or 2009, they ticketed many toyhaulers as they could pull over leaving Pismo Beach. The only ones not getting tickets are those who had a regular license and the endorsement that nobody had heard of yet, or those who like you where licensed to tow just about anything, and had a current medical certificate to make their class A license valid.
If their wife wanted to tow the trailer, they would have needed the weight endorsement on their standard car license, or to obtain a class A license if they where going to double tow. Many that I know that are double towing just let the husband drive, he does that over 30 hours a week normally, so why not while on vacation too?
Golden_HVAC wrote: In California, a California resident would need a endorsed license to properly tow a fifth wheel over a certain weight, I think it is 15,000 pounds GVWR, and over 10,000 pounds for a conventional trailer. Yes these are privately owned camping vehicles. Not for hire, ect.
For recreational trailers over 15k lbs a person would need atleast the NonCommercial Class A.
From the CA DMV website :
A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire. This endorsement is not required if the driver has a commercial or noncommercial Class A driver license.
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Golden_HVAC wrote: In California, a California resident would need a endorsed license to properly tow a fifth wheel over a certain weight, I think it is 15,000 pounds GVWR, and over 10,000 pounds for a conventional trailer. Yes these are privately owned camping vehicles. Not for hire, ect.
From the CA DMV website :
A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire. This endorsement is not required if the driver has a commercial or noncommercial Class A driver license.
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Good Luck getting the people at dmv to know what you want. I just went through it. Over 15K you need the non commercial class A, including written and driving test. The class C endorsement is just the written test. No fee unless your DL is 6 months from expiring.
Texas also requires a non commercial class A if the TV & trailer gross over 26K combined.. In my case I would have to pull a 16,001 lb trailer with my 10K pickup before I would need such a critter... not out of the question but unlikely...
lawnspecialties wrote: We have non-commercial CDL licenses in NC but that's typically for firefighters, non-commercial truck drivers, etc.
Nobody really cares about RVs and I have never heard of any RVs being stopped, weighed, or anything by NCDMV.
It's not so much about getting weighed as it is about insurance... you ain't got the right endorsement on the license guess who is gonna pay when the time comes...
It's not so much about getting weighed as it is about insurance... you ain't got the right endorsement on the license guess who is gonna pay when the time comes...
My guess would be the insurance company.They have your license number on file.They would probably drop you after they pay though.Same thing if a DWI accident.
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