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Looks like you are doing everything right selecting the tow vehicle and purchasing an RV based on it's capacities. As others have said, look for a 5th wheel in the less than 10k dry weight range. Be mind full of how much you load it. Since you will be full timing, you will have a necessity to carry more then the weekender. A good idea might be to load it up the first time and then head to the scales. You may exceed you GVWR slightly but DO NOT exceed your axle and tire ratings.

Welcome to the forum. Drop in often. Some pretty good information here.

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dennisgt60 wrote:

Congrats on the new truck. We are looking at fivers in the 10, 500 GVWR and down for the truck in my sig. Many nice units available. Have to stay away from the " heavy" fivers with our 3/4 ton trucks. My trucks CAT weight includes me and tank of gas. Mine is an XLT....I think the XLT's are 3-400lbs lighter than the Lariat.


10,500 GVWR is a good number to shoot for. There should be a nice selection of trailers out there. My previous trailer was a 33' fifth and came in at about those numbers. Two slides, bedroom and living room. Modern trailers are lighter than they used to be. Have fun shopping!


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mobilcastle wrote:

Michelle.S wrote:

The only question I have is on the Gasser. Now I'm not up on any of the gassers out there. I know the old Ford V10 was a good hauler although a gas hog, so how will does that 6.2L handle that 11K on a long grade? I know our old 5.7 '95 Chevy knew there was something back there and it was

only a 4500 Lb TT. Now I know all

the big 3 have made major advancessince then, so I'm just curious what the thought is on pulling a med size 5er with the new gasser.

I had a V10 and it halled an 11K with no problem and it could pass anything but a gas station. I think the Chevy 6.0 in the 2500 and up is a super work horse for a 10-11K 5ver. I am sure going up hills it is a screamer but as you know chevy makes a great riding truck-My V10 F250 was a hard ride.


I can't tell you how pleased I am with my Chevy 1 ton Gasser. See sig below. Its not a diesel but I haven't had a highway hill yet where I couldn't maintain speed (12k fiver).
No matter what brand Gasser, 4:10 axle is highly recommended for towing over 10k loads. Yeah, she screams on the hills but it is supposed to.
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The only question I have is on the Gasser. Now I'm not up on any of the gassers out there. I know the old Ford V10 was a good hauler although a gas hog, so how will does that 6.2L handle that 11K on a long grade? I know our old 5.7 '95 Chevy knew there was something back there and it was only a 4500 Lb TT. Now I know all the big 3 have made major advances since then, so I'm just curious what the thought is on pulling a med size 5er with the new gasser.


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Michelle.S wrote:

The only question I have is on the Gasser. Now I'm not up on any of the gassers out there. I know the old Ford V10 was a good hauler although a gas hog, so how will does that 6.2L handle that 11K on a long grade? I know our old 5.7 '95 Chevy knew there was something back there and it was only a 4500 Lb TT. Now I know all the big 3 have made major advances since then, so I'm just curious what the thought is on pulling a med size 5er with the new gasser.

I had a V10 and it halled an 11K with no problem and it could pass anything but a gas station. I think the Chevy 6.0 in the 2500 and up is a super work horse for a 10-11K 5ver. I am sure going up hills it is a screamer but as you know chevy makes a great riding truck-My V10 F250 was a hard ride.


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Marine1911 wrote:

Johnboy,
I didn't think to get the actual front and rear axel weights when I was at the scale. I thought I would get that once I got the trailer but perhaps that is ass backwards? I have never towed anything the wife has towed horse trailers. I want to get as much 5er that will be comfortable to tow with no white knuckle rides...


Yes sir, if you used a cat scale, the axle weights are on there...
if not, reweighs are only $1 IIRC...
worst case scenario, is another $9.50 to reweigh...
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would be good to know exactly what the rear axle weight is so you can know what pin weight to watch out for...

but again - you are doing fine so far !


FYI, that 6.2L is a great engine.. at least it is in my step sons Raptor - NICE truck - NICE engine... and he immediately wanted to be like his step dad and got a 60HP tune added on that thing runs well !

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My 1997 F250 handles my Sabre 34RLQS that is around 9800 lbs dry great. Only squatted the truck about 1 1/2 inches but I went ahead and added air bags but only have to run about 25lbs in them loaded.


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I think many responders missed that your 7720 weight doesn't include the hitch, and you'll likely want a slider. That puts your weight at 8K. By your numbers, you can handle another ton on the pin, so that's going to limit your camper, loaded, to around 10K -- maybe 11K tops. That's if you don't haul more people in your truck, firewood or a toolbox in the back. I'd limit that new 5er to a 10,000 gvwr. I think that'll be more than enough for your engine anyway.

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Welcome to the forum
If you are going to be part time, I would think you will not load it to max-10 or 11K loaded should work well. Good luck.

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2010 F250 Super Duty

H&S Mini-Maxx, S&B Air Box, Sinister EGR delete, 4" turbo back EPF/CAT delete, Bilstein shocks
50 gallon TransferFlow inbed fuel tank
30' 2011 Keystone Outback fifth wheel

5th Wheel/Gooseneck Truck & Trailer Weight Safety Report
from http://fifthwheelst.com/fifth-wheel-weight-calculator.htm

Certification Ratings Scale Weights

Truck Truck with Trailer Attached
Front Axle (GAWR) 1 4850 Total Front Axle Weight A 4500
Rear Axle (GAWR) 2 6100 Total Rear Axle Weight B 4780
GVWR 3 9800 Total Trailer Axle(s) Weight C 6640
GCWR 4 16000

5th Wheel/Gooseneck Hitch Truck W/O Trailer Attached
Gross Towing Weight (GTWR) 15000 Total Front Axle Weight D 4480
Maximum Vertical Load (Kingpin) 3750 Total Rear Axle Weight E 3380
Automatically calculated at 25% (Industry Standard)

Never exceed manufacturer’s rating.

5th Wheel/Gooseneck Trailer
GVWR 6 9500


Section C - Report
Safety Margin vs. Overload

Truck w/attached Trailer Wt. 9280 Truck Front Axle -350
Truck Weight 7860 Truck Rear Axle -1320
Trailer Vertical Load (Kingpin)1420 Truck GVW -520
Trailer Gross Weight 8060 Truck GCW -80
Truck & Trailer Combined Wt. 15920 Hitch Tow GTW -6940
Vertical Load (Kingpin) 18% Vertical Load (Kingpin) -2330
(Recommended range - 15-25%) Trailer GVW -1440

* This post was edited 01/27/13 07:45pm by j0hnburks *


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H&S Mini-Maxx, S&B Air Box, Sinister EGR delete, 4" turbo back EPF/CAT delete, Bilstein shocks
50 gallon TransferFlow inbed fuel tank
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