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Posted: 09/07/13 11:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

bobojay5 wrote:

mlts22 wrote:

I've rambled about this model a bit here and on the "B" forums. It is nice because it is based on the Euro van style (Sprinter/Transit/Ducato.) However, I wonder what the real price on this will be. Too high, and people will just go for an ERA.

There are some nice things about the Travato. The push-button latches, a decent gasoline generator (I'm from Texas, so A/C is critical for a good chunk of the year), a heat strip in the A/C, SMEV/Dometic flush sink and stove, and some decent seating in the back.

However, the Travato does make some compromises. A four gallon water heater and its oddball floor plan which may or may not work. For a single person who doesn't mind flipping the bed up to shove in a bicycle or two, it might work. For a couple, the bed borders on the small side.

I am definitely interested in this model because it has a decent seating area to put a laptop, without having to worry about making/unmaking the bed. It also has a decent sized refrigerator and the bathroom doesn't appear to be too cramped.



Mlts22, we've PM'ed enough to get a feel of our respective class B knowledge, so I'm going to take a wild guess here on the 59G Travato's out the door price and say $72 to $75k. Maybe as low as $70k after they get some out there.
I think this model would be a great class B for a single person. Maybe even 2, if the second person sleeps up front.
If you think about it, the 4 gallon water heater is no big deal. We turn our 6 gallon on, let it heat for about 15 minutes, turn it off, and we can both take showers without running out of hot water. You just don't use much in a B or any smaller RV.

The only deal with the gas generator is that you have to be religious about exercising it during non use times, and use fuel stabilizer too.

And the poster above that made the laminated cabinetry comment. They are laminated, not solid wood like some of the high $$$ B's. No big deal.


the 4 gallon water heater in the travato is only 110 volt. it cannot use propane.must use generator or hook up.

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Posted: 09/07/13 02:22pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Price: The winnebago website says the price is $84,039.00
Go to http://winnebagotouring.com/ mouse over motorhomes->Travato and it shows a price.

I suspect propane generators are better for some people and gas is better for others. If you aren't running it very often or very long propane is probably just fine. I liked the idea of a propane based generator and wanted to get one for my house, but I learned that it uses a lot of propane per hour. Sounds fine for occasional short term use, but maybe not so good for someone who is running for a longer time. How much propane do the propane based generators in RVs use per hour? How many hours of use does that give you based on the typical size of propane tanks in class B RVs?

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I think based on what we have used in ours so far this summer, running the AC for a couple hours at a shot when were out, that you can probably figure about a gallon an hour with our 13,500 Coleman units and the LP Onan. Maybe 10 to 11 hrs with the tank size in the ERA.

Yes, the Travato water heater is 110v only. We have very, very seldom used our 2 way water heater on gas on any of our RV's.


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Wow, i didn't realized it used a 110VAC-only water heater. That would be a dent in boondocking because I'd have to have a generator running (hopefully it can heat water fairly quickly, in the 5-10 min range), but not a deal breaker. I'd probably make sure to flip on the water heater when I'm running the generator in the morning to charge the batteries so I have a tankful ready to go. Shouldn't be a big deal, but it would be nice to have as little needing 120 volts as possible, other than the A/C and microwave.

A propane generator is nice in the fact that it does not get fouled by bad gas. Propane is a good fuel, however its availability is sometimes very hard to come by as opposed to gasoline or even diesel.

All and all, low 70s for a decent "B" isn't too bad. The cabinets are laminate, but for what I'm doing, it doesn't matter.

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mlts22 wrote:

Wow, i didn't realized it used a 110VAC-only water heater. That would be a dent in boondocking because I'd have to have a generator running (hopefully it can heat water fairly quickly, in the 5-10 min range), but not a deal breaker. I'd probably make sure to flip on the water heater when I'm running the generator in the morning to charge the batteries so I have a tankful ready to go. Shouldn't be a big deal, but it would be nice to have as little needing 120 volts as possible, other than the A/C and microwave.


Based on our experience with the 110v portion of our 6 gallon water heater, if it's heating element has a good output like the Atwood we have now and in the past, that WGO currently uses in their B's & C's, I'd say 10-12 minutes would be plenty long.

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mlts22 wrote:

Wow, i didn't realized it used a 110VAC-only water heater. That would be a dent in boondocking because I'd have to have a generator running (hopefully it can heat water fairly quickly, in the 5-10 min range), but not a deal breaker. I'd probably make sure to flip on the water heater when I'm running the generator in the morning to charge the batteries so I have a tankful ready to go. Shouldn't be a big deal, but it would be nice to have as little needing 120 volts as possible, other than the A/C and microwave.

A propane generator is nice in the fact that it does not get fouled by bad gas. Propane is a good fuel, however its availability is sometimes very hard to come by as opposed to gasoline or even diesel.

All and all, low 70s for a decent "B" isn't too bad. The cabinets are laminate, but for what I'm doing, it doesn't matter.



i suppose it could be a misprint. but the specs just say 110 volt

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A similar RV has been on the European market since 2009.

2 different models here


Too bad Chrysler (Fiat) dropped the diesel engine for the north American market.
I rented one of those 3 years ago on a trip to Europe. It returned a solid 40mpg.



* This post was edited 09/08/13 06:29pm by JackD *

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Did they really drop the diesel? That would be a shame.

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What would that mpg of 40 translate to in US mpg?

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Gee. I guess I am used to propane for our PW water heater. If it works on 110V please enlighten me as i cannot see a switch position. A propane-fired demand heater would seem to be quicker than 110V version given my experience with the two power sources. The Travato price at around 70K would perhaps be attractive but I cannot see it as a good choice for two people, maybe one, as noted. And I think that the bathroom would be a bit tight for my 6ft 1inch trim frame. In the PW TS I have, I am happy as a well-watered clam!! How about that 40 mpg with the Jack D unit while in Europe. I get 30mpg on the 20% bigger Canadian gallon and I am very pleased.
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