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So I've been reading for days about this and have read mixed reviews on the topic all of which don't directly relate to my situation so I thought'd I'd ask someone with some experience towing.

I just bought my 2014 Rockwood 8289ws which is 8408lbs dry, with a GVWR of 9878lbs. Currently I tow it with a 2003 2500HD Duramax. The truck is a short bed, extended cab, so about as short as one can get. It handles fine when its not windy at 70mph, but in turn on a windy day it makes me a bit nervous. To answer the question, is the fifth wheel set up properly and weight distributed properly? Yes. And please don't say I shouldn't be towing over 65mph. I know I know. I just feel like the fifth wheel owns the truck when I'm driving, and I don't like that feeling.

At the moment I'm considering a dually. Overkill? Most would say yes. But I like the idea of being "over trucked". I like being able to sit back for ten hours and cruise and not have to constantly be paying attention behind me.

That being said, I hate the idea of a dually. 6 tires, worse fuel mileage, and wider. I'd really love to go with a SRW because I love the way a four door long bed SRW looks, amongst other benefits. Regardless I'll do a 1 ton truck, and regardless it'll be a long bed four door (I just feel the longer wheel base is best). Just can't decide if I want a SRW or DRW. If its true that I'll notice zero difference in stability because my fifth wheel is so light, then I'll go SRW. But if a windy day comes and I will in fact notice a difference between the two and feel better with a dually with a 9000lb fifth wheel, then I want to go dually. I'll sacrifice 2mpg for comfort and stability.

Everything I've read is on 13,000lb and up fifth wheels. Sure a DRW is the way to go in that case, but at under 10,000lbs, I'm wondering if I'll benefit at all with DRW.

Last note, the truck is not a daily driver. Its only purpose is camping. I'm not retired, and wont be for about 35 more years lol, so I don't camp all the time. I'm making a couple large trips this summer however, and planning on a few two week 'out west' trips next year, as well as the years to follow, so I want a comfortable truck since I'm spending the money! Also I live out in the country so a dually is more than manageable plus I've grown up operating large machinery.

Hoping to hear that I wont feel a difference between the two given the fifth wheel I have, but I'm afraid thats not true. Thanks guys!

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3500 RAM/Cummins/AISIN SRW LONGBED will handle any 14K with ease. If you are thinking of going larger in the near future I would get the same truck in a Dually. Highly advise the factory rear air ride with the 3500 RAM's.

I tow 33K combined in all road and weather conditions with ease. At the end of a long day of towing I am NOT wiped out.


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Can't say you'll not have any better stability with a dually, but then again a class8 tractor would pull it even better.
10k 5ver, I'd argue that you'll be sufficiently over trucked with a new long bed srw 1ton.

Especially compared to a 14 year old short bed truck.


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I can't help with the SRW vrs DRW towing this light of FW. Most FWs would tow just fine hooked to a TV within it's wt limits, even in the wind. I'm towing with a Super Cab 6'9" bed 142" wheelbase. I have no wind/handling issues, but rarely do I tow 70 mph.

I wonder if your FW suspension may be a little light, for the size trailer? With the low CCC of your FW, I'd guess 4,400 lb axles/w light springs. I think 5,200 lb axles/springs would be a big stability improvement, as well as much better braking.

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If it's not a daily driver,and all you're using the truck for is camping then I'd go with the dually. A wider stance is going to give you better stability. It may not be necessary, but the wider stance is nice. And also, you'll have the bigger truck if you go to a bigger 5th wheel at some point.


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My 5er is right at 13,000 lbs and tows fine with my F350 SRW, even in high cross winds. And yes, I am within weight ratings. Mine moves around much less than some large motor homes I have followed in high winds.

Possibly the combination of the 2500 and the lighter weight 5er contribute to the wind movement. And some people are simply more sensitive to movement than others. You certainly don't need a DRW for the weight.

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Misconceptions abound in your post.
The widest point on any truck is the mirrors.
Duallies are more stable.
Do you need a dually? NO! What you need for your current fiver is a 2500 long bed, either a ext or crew cab. The longer wheel base will handle your current fiver much better.
Fuel mileage will be no better or worse. It depends too much on engine,transmission and rear end gear ratio. The extra two tires will make so little difference, you will never see it.


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BB_TX wrote:

My 5er is right at 13,000 lbs and tows fine with my F350 SRW, even in high cross winds. And yes, I am within weight ratings. Mine moves around much less than some large motor homes I have followed in high winds.

Possibly the combination of the 2500 and the lighter weight 5er contribute to the wind movement. And some people are simply more sensitive to movement than others. You certainly don't need a DRW for the weight.


I'm probably a lot more sensitive to movement than others. I had a travel trailer before this that was not setup quite right, and scared the life out of me in one particular incident. Since then I've always been a bit overly paranoid to any movement behind me. I'm sure with more seat time that'll all go away as that incident happened last May. And no, I wasn't in an accident, just some pretty severe swaying and my truck had lousy sidewall tires at the time. Good point about the lighter fifth wheel contributing to wind movement though..never thought about it that way!

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donn0128 wrote:

Misconceptions abound in your post.
The widest point on any truck is the mirrors.
Duallies are more stable.
Do you need a dually? NO! What you need for your current fiver is a 2500 long bed, either a ext or crew cab. The longer wheel base will handle your current fiver much better.
Fuel mileage will be no better or worse. It depends too much on engine,transmission and rear end gear ratio. The extra two tires will make so little difference, you will never see it.


Good point about the mirrors being the widest point! Makes sense! Also great points about fuel mileage. I agree a 2500 is enough, just still not sure if I want a 3/4 ton again. I'll keep thinking on it!

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Grit dog wrote:

Can't say you'll not have any better stability with a dually, but then again a class8 tractor would pull it even better.
10k 5ver, I'd argue that you'll be sufficiently over trucked with a new long bed srw 1ton.

Especially compared to a 14 year old short bed truck.


One great point I like here. I laughed about your class8 tractor comment, [emoticon] I wondered how much the age of the truck contributed to its ability to tow comfortably. Sure my current truck tows a lot and does so just fine, but technology and research has come a long way in 14 years I'm sure! I just haven't towed with a newer truck to know exactly how much that has changed. Not to mention, 800ft/lbs vs my 520ft/lbs sounds awesome too! [emoticon]

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