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It seems Bosch has a version 4 out now. Or is that what they always had? I am "hoping" this fixes or addresses the issues version 3 "supposedly" had. I have read most of the 120 page thread, started by you (and linked again in this thread). I just haven't run across a definitive post discussing version 4. Maybe a description is buried in that 120 page thread, but I don't feel like looking through all 120 pages, hoping to find a description of version 4.
I am thinking of buying a VW TDI sometime next year, so am curious about version 4. From the sounds of it, nobody really knows anything yet.
I guess time will tell.
Buy it, VW has a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty on the drive train, and yes, the HPFP is included in that. I trailer with mine. A little early with only 8300 miles on it, but 2500 of those miles are towing 3800 pounds, a 19 foot travel trailer.
Long time TDI owner here, and have looked at a lot of the trends in HPFP failures... Shell diesel fuel along with Valero here on the West Coast comprise a lot of the failures... far fewer failures on Chevron, Conoco Phillips and Sinclair diesel fuels, in my observations.
More likely to have failures in hot coastal states, CA, AZ, TX and FL.
This is one RVer who will never own another Palomino. Bought a new one and the back cap fit so bad, the dealer returned it to the factory and gave me another. The replacement trailer walls were not sealed to the floor and rotted all around. Still under warranty, was sent back to the factory for a rebuild. When returned six months later, a list of major discrepancies included: Refrigerator mounted on top of power line shorting out the mains. A 1 foot square piece of linoleum patched in using double stick tape. Worst of all a 1 inch gap between the back cap and the floor caused rot again. 'nuff said!
Which Palomino model was this that you had so many problems with?
Still searching for my parents.
and came across this unit near us. Palomino Gazelle G-215. Meets the needs by having a large rear bath, front walk around queen, slideout, ducted AC and length (22'). Question is who has one from these Forest River line of campers and your overall impression of quality. Any and all info or suggestions as to other brands that have this layout. They have seen the Greywolf 18RB and Surveyor 220.
Gee I sure hope you find them... :R:B
Hehehe... I just couldn't pass this up..
I did. Thanks for your heart felt concern. I am also missing $5000 that my in-laws borrowed and never paid back. Can you put in a good word?
I hope you drew up some paperwork with signatures on that loan, so you have some form of a binding contract with family.
I bought almost the same unit, a Gazelle G210. and you have a Dometic 13,000 BTU AC. If my Trailer is running the refrigerator on propane, not electric, and nothing else is on it will run on Honda EU2000i. Run a few items at the same time and you need more.
I built this parallel cable box myself from a Honda parallel wire kit. You can parallel an Eu1000i with a Eu2000i, but you must always pull start the eu1000i first so that the bigger unit the 2000 will synch it's 60hz cycle with the smaller unit.
I have had a lot of problems with my 2012 Gazelle, one of them was the cotter pin on the left axle installed incorrectly and popping my dust cover.
I took it out on it's first camping trip this weekend, and the cleats for the drawers next to the refrigerator are stapled together and hanging by the cleats... poor use of fasteners, wrecked the face of the cabinet, with the only thing being driving 120 miles all on interstate or highway, no dirt roads, with a Good Sam 2012 reference book that weighs about 3 or 4 pounds causing the staples to pull out. Pathetic... Also a couple of knob handles fell off 2 cabinets. Pulling the drawers out completely was a pain in the butt pressing the locks at full extension either up or down... getting at the lock next to the bathroom door was a tight fit, done blindly. If you press one side down (the right side), you need to press the other side (the left side) up to get the drawers to release to see the damage inside. Wrong choice of fastener, hanging cleats vertically off of a vertical, not a horizontal staple job.
Today, after a mountain bike ride, in the mid 80's temp wise here in So Calif, I fired up the water heater, making sure it was topped off and no air in the water system before I turned it on with gas from the panel inside. I used the outside shower, and upon turning the water on, it leaked like a sieve, the fittings are not properly tightend.
Good luck with your new unit, hope it fares better than mine.
I'm a general contractor, so I have the ability to sort my trailer out, but it's so frustrating to see how poorly these units are made, and having to fix everybody else's mistakes.
Both sides let go. Hanging stuff from an upside down staple fastener is just plain the work of an idiot finish carpenter with no common sense on proper use of fasteners. No glue either.
The damage done to the face plate due to the failed finish work of an idiot with no clue using a staple gun.
Like to do around 300 to 350 miles. I'v done a lot more but don't like it. On the flats like Ks where I can do 75 I can drive a bit longer but not much because of boredom.
I've stayed at a lot of Walmarts. Never any problem unless you count being woken op by a sweeper truck at 3 in the morning.
This /\ You can count on your car and trailer being filty with the sweeper truck running every night blowing all the cr*p up into the air and all around onto your TV and TT.
I have pretty much given up on Wal Marts, especially when they are in college towns.
I avoid rush hour traffic anywhere in a city, if at all possible, when trailering my 21 foot trailer. Too many idiots on the roads cutting across all the lanes, passing on the right, shooting across 4 lanes to make an exit.
If it's over 300HP and they pair it with something along the lines of the Ford HD payload package, it'll be a nice rig.
Well... Hint: The same 3.0L VM Motori powerplant is rated at 240HP and 420 Lb-Ft of tourque in the 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee.
Also, FYI: Chrysler has been using VM Motori diesel engines in different vehicles for just over 20 years.
Yes, I know that but do you know the history of Ford's ecoboost? When it went in the truck the numbers improved.
Edit: don't get yourself in trouble...
Those are very realistic and doable torque and HP numbers from a motor of that displacement, almost identical to what VW, AUDI and Porsche are getting out of their 3.0L V6 TDI motors in 2013 tunes.
Most importantly to me will be who is building the HPFP for these italian VM motors.... if it's a Bosch CP4.2 series HPFP and it runs piezo injectors to 2000 bar pressure, it may be failure prone... if it runs solenoid injectors at 1600 bar and also runs DEF fluid to clean up the NOX emissions, it should be relatively problem free, provided there's no user error with filling up with gasoline, or diesel fuel with residual gas in it from the tankers, or fuel with water in it... all of those sloppy issues will roast a HPFP in short order and if a Bosch CP4.2 HPFP, grenade the whole fuel system with metal shards and shrapnel in everything, tank, fuel pumps, lines, rails, injectors, the whole 9 yards.
Dodge better make the front end pretty slick on this truck, more aerodynamic with a lower CD, and clean up all the under belly drag too if it wants to have higher MPG empty and not have the aerodynamics of a brick going 75-80 MPH down the Interstate or highway. That's the only way to get better MPG's when not towing. Been down this road with my 2012 VW Touareg 3.0L TDI w/ 8 speed auto... and 33MPG empty is real numbers, 15.6 MPG towing from Chicago to L.A. with a 21 ft 3800 pound travel trailer in December, on winter diesel fuel, which is lousy for getting good MPG's.
Dodge better keep that black box locked and encrypted to keep the tuner weenies our of it and destroying the motor /engine with unauthorized tunes and tweeks that void warrantys.
Lost Dutchman, that's a good one to remember for Mountain biking and camping, lots of good areas to ride the mtn bike near by... Gold Canyon for starters, and Picket Post portion of the Arizona Trail, further east nearer Globe.
At this point, my 2012 Touareg TDI is well traveled so early in it's life. Check out my signature for all the states traveled going to pick it up, and bringing it home. Hmmm wonder where it is? my sig?
When I was a dirt camper, fly fishing on the McCloud River in Northern California for the October Caddis hatch for trout, we had a couple of drunk dudes pull into the campsite next to us around 2 AM in the morning, spill out of their truck and talk drunken trash for a half an hour nice and loud, while they set up camp in the dark. They were from San Francisco... fwiw...
We asked them politely the first time to keep it down, and turn off the tunes, then not so nicely the second time. Our words fell on deaf ears.
Not a problem... I got up at 6 AM, and fired up my 2003 Dodge Cummins right next to their campsite, and let it warm up so the cab would be nice and cozy once the bacon, eggs and coffee were finished being eaten and dished cleaned up.
Shut the motor off, then sat outside the truck and had a nice long discussion /argument about where we were gonna fish on the river that morning, add in a little flatulence, then played with my buds Queenshealer with fetching and barking... Around 7AM, we were ready to do the triple S's and brush our teeth. About that time, we turned on the radio with the doors open to hear the news and weather report on the AM radio.
Got back to camp just in time for lunch, and as we were going out to fish the afternoon hatch, the other friendly campers picked up camp and moved about 51 spots down. I guess they didn't like the smell of fresh diesel fumes in the morning?
My 2012 VW Touareg V6 TDI diesel requires a VW 507.00 Euro LL03 spec 5W-30 Full synthetic motor oil that is Low SAPS spec of 600 ppm calcium in the oil, to keep ash content down in the Diesel particulate filter from oil burning. Manufacturer recommends 10,000 miles between oil changes.
So that's what I'll do, $8 a liter for oil, takes 9 liters.
It tows my 21 foot travel trailer just fine. MPG goes from an average of 29.5 MPG to about 15.5 or 16 MPG.
Are they working with you on warranty parts?
Also, you a Niner fan, nice bikes.....Me and my wife are endurance Mtn Bike racers, Specialized 29'ers Hard-tails, have quite a few friend in the Atl area on Niners.
Owning a travel trailer, always an adventure!
S-Works Stumpjumpers, no doubt. The $4000 or the $7,000 build?
The parts are supposed to arrive today... in the mail? Didn't arrive UPS, the Garmin GPS mounts for the handlebars did, though.
I just want it on record that their production facility screwed up on a simple procedure, and if it bites back later on down the line, I am covered, and that it is on record that I filed a claim. Otherwise, I will let them come out and pay for someones labor to fix the whole unit, and send them the towing bill also. Mistakes like this under warranty get really expensive, really fast, when you have careless employees on the production line, and poor QC procedures to catch stuff like this. Have to hold companies accountable for their production mistakes.
I spoke with them Wednesday morning, parts were promised delivered by Friday... it's Sunday, parts still are not here. Been home the whole time, no way I missed the delivery truck or postman.
No worries, I have the tools, and the means to fix it. I don't think the grease or bearings are burned. I will trailer it a while and shoot it with a temp laser to see if this wheel is in spec, temp wise, average wise, with the 3 others. If not, Al-Ko will get to do a full rebuild. I will file a claim with them, get a claim number, and get them to mail me something to show it is on the record with them, and that a claim has been filed.
How to install a cotter pin correctly
I bought a really nice 21 foot Palomino Gazelle G-210 on Nove 27th, 2012. Brand New. Towed it 2100 miles home without backing up even once. When I finally got to the storage yard back home, I did back it into it's new resting spot at the storage yard. Popped a dust cover too, found one laying beside by car after backing up. Sure enough, it was off the left front axle of my tandem set up.
Reinstalled it. Did a few short hauls, finally did a full hookup to test everything electric, on a warmer day, 78f, even ran the AC. Brought it back, backed it up, and today... great, my dust cover is popped off again, and there's dirt and dust in my Al-Co torsion beam suspension.
Smart phones are wonderful, took a couple pictures of it... at first I thought it was some sort of spring that was installed incorrectly, or dislodged... didn't have my reading glasses on.
But then I took a second picture, closer up, and then reviewed it on my smart phone "Gallery" file on my Samsung Galaxy S2, and the problem became quite clear.
I am speculating here, but some idiotic or disgruntled employee of Al-Ko, probably in Elkhart Indiana, nearest dealership to Colon, MI where my Palomino Gazelle was built in November, 2011, did a deliberate misinstall of the cotter pin, bending both ends of the cotter pins so that they would only roll with the wheel going forward, counter clockwise on the left wheels, and would twist in the hole they are installed in and bow outwards, away laterally, and bite into and expel the seal outwards when backing up.
I knew as early as 10 years of age the proper and only way to install a cotter pin is to bend the pins in complete opposite directions around the axle, so as to secure them and prevent this type of sabotage.
I called up Al-Ko, it will be easier for them to just send me the parts I need so I can install them myself, than deal with warranty coverage of such a pathetic and bonehead move.
So, moral of the story is, if you are popping your dust covers on Al-Ko torsion axles, stick your eyeballs and nose in there and verify that this isn't the problem... you need to back your trailer up without pulling it forward at all to see the cotter pin protuding if you are popping dust covers... pulling forward hides the cotter pin again inside, where it is now hidden again and can not be seen. Someone bored on the production line discovered this little trick.
I just cannot believe how STUPID AT&T is that they are either constructing NOW or can't fix a site that serves an entire town for days. There is absolutely no excuse for either. If it were broken, as with any other enterprise class install there are either hot-standby radios, or off the shelf spares usually carried by the tech's. This entire system shouldn't have been off the air more than the commute time by the tech. When we got here last Friday, the entire town was off the air. It ran until somewhere around Tuesday, then dropped off to EDGE, and GSM for awhile, and considerably reduced power until late Friday night. The vendors were going nuts because they couldnt do any credit charges all that time.
It's certainly no surprise what week this show, and 900,000+ people showing up occurs.. It's just like elections: same time, every time.
I pounded hard on AT&T while here, and will do so through company channels since that phone was also AT&T, I hope others do the same. The problem is finding someone smart enough to even 'get' what goes on in Quartzsite.
Off the soapbox...
When stuff like this happens, a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and the Public Utilities Commission about a breach of contract of services usually gets things moving along nicely.
As I said before, this same garbage service goes on in Mammoth Lakes over the Christmas Holidays. AT&T just will not set up sites to handle such heavy volume when 99.99% of the time, the cell site is nowhere near peak load. All these obscure places are under engineered for such high volume usage when trade shows occur out in the sticks.
A major Fustercluck is in the making with cell phone service when the next big earthquake hits in Los Angeles. We had doozies in 1971, 1994, and we are due in the next 10 years for another whopper of a shaker and massive amounts of damage and the whole phone system being swamped again.
I jury rigged my Honda EU2000i with this cable box, for pairing, and found that the Honda EU2000i would start and run my Dometic 13500 BTU AC, no problem, at 1100 feet elevation. 30 Amp RV plug coming out of the box, heavy gauge wire flows the amps, and cuts down on the losses, making motor start up easier for the AC unit.
Key was that my battery was pretty much fully charged, and not low and sucking amps off the genny also.
Don't chintz on the gauge of wire. 14 ga for 15 amp, 12 gauge for 20 amp, 10 gauge for 30 amp, and keep the runs short in length.