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RE: How do I figure out my tow capacity?

HW for the trailer needs to be included in the CCC or payload of ANY vehicle! Reality is, 5000lbs plus 10% hW of 500 lbs means you have 5500 lbs of trailer. OR, if you MH is only 26K lbs, you have 1900 lbs for hw. Or 19K lbs of trailer capacity at 10%. Assuming you have a strong enough hitch etc. Or at 25% if you could do a 5w, you have a max trailer of 7900 lbs. Or at the max for a ball mount trailer of 15% you have 12666 lbs of trailer total. Towing a trailer generally speaking with no hw will cause sway issues. If the car tow dolly or equal does not have hw, then that is a different issue. then yes, you can max the gvwr of the MH, then you have a max 5000 lbs of car you can tow! Marty
blt2ski 03/01/15 08:46pm Towing
RE: How do I figure out my tow capacity?

According to page 2 of the link you gave. You're CCWR 32,910. At this moment in time, you also have to ask yourself, what warranty do you have? if none, then the gcwr is useless figure to work with, as it is a non legal term. If you have enough HP, torque and the correct gearing. up to 7000 lbs behind your MH should not be an issue. The real issue I see, is that the empty wt of your MH is 24K lbs, leaving you with all of 3000 lbs for water, black and gray tank fillings, food etc. Reality is, if you are at gvwr, then your tow capacity is squat, zero, nada, nothing. Unless you can tow a trailer, or your toad with little to no tongue/hitch wt. marty
blt2ski 02/28/15 11:36pm Towing
RE: Generator In Truck Bed Problem

Hook a cable and lock to something strong on the truck bed. Then get a waterproof canvas built to the size of the generator, and you are set to go! Or some have built a lighter weight wood cover over the genset. If placed correctly, you can run the genset with the wood cover over it. I;ve seen this in the mtns at the local ski area when using the RV as a ski hut. Marty
blt2ski 02/27/15 08:23pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Is this a dangerous situation?

Did you just get new tires? if so, sometimes this happens when the tires are new. OR< one or more may have a belt that is slipped, and you need new tires. I di dnot see that tires were checked. Marty
blt2ski 02/23/15 02:53pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Are 250/2500 trucks limited by their Class?

Depends upon the who or what you want to listen to. From a legal prospective, at least I have found here in Wa st. Your door sticker means squat when it comes to how heavy you can run a 25 series truck down the road at. Max will be around 20K lbs. Or 500 lbs per inch width of tire. Most of these models have 10" tires, so 5000 times 4 is 20K lbs. Chances of one truly getting an over load ticket if you have enough paid for license fee is pretty slim if you use manufactures warranty numbers. Which is what the manufactures ratings are, go over, your warranty may be null and void. OR, as some have pointed out, you may not meet the J2807 towing performance specs. Reality is, many 25 series trucks, are based on the same basic frame etc as 35 series duallies with a few changes. Now with this in mind, would I want to be at 20K gvw in a typical class 2 truck.....probably not, nor am I going to recommend it! As you will probably be stuck on the side of the road with a failed braking system. IE here, if you can not stop the rig with in 25' from 20mph, you have a failed braking system, even if it is operating at 100% of its capability! You can not take the truck back on the hwy. This ticket also follows you around as a moving violation. Being overwt per the federal bridge laws, ie the 20K lb or 10K per axle as noted, is a non moving violation, not a jail able offense etc. Nor does the overwt ticket go on your driving record. I can also change out the specs easy enough on said class 2 truck, by putting a tag, drop, or making the driving axel a tandem! Assuming the person that does the final work, hopefully the truck starts as a cab and chassis, easier to get re-certification this way, I can then up the door sticker gvwr, gawr etc. Most RV motor homes with tag axels were added after the frame was made. So the original door sticker is mute! Generally speaking tho, a dot class 2b truck, will not have the overall same ability as a dw class 3 truck, no matter how you slice the cake. Possibly equal to a sw35, then again.......... marty
blt2ski 02/23/15 02:19pm Tow Vehicles
RE: What is included in Gross Vehicle Weight

......... Interestingly enough, it was theoretically possible for a customer to order such a basic vehicle, but I would need to understand why anyone would want to! I've owned a couple of these types of rigs. My 2000 c2500 has payload with in 300 lbs of my 05 dually crew can. 3800 vs 4100. If I used the axel wt ratings, the dually would be more in the 1000-2000 lbs payload difference. Which leads to what a state/Provence follows for registered gvw(r)....some the base gvw, others the sum of the axels. My state washington, ALL trucks be them personal or commercial have a wt tag om 2000 lb increments sold to them. The minimum one can have is 1.5 times manufacture empty wt, ie weight Keith is talking about, times 1.5 to the next highest ton. A 7500 lbs rig, like my 05 dually would be licensed to 12K lbs. Some SW 25/35 series trucks ALSO weigh this much. They too would be licensed to 12K lbs. AND, BE LEGAL to 12K lbs too! Door sticker be danged! I even bought and upped gvwr for my dually to 14K. My c2500 on the other hand, being as it weighs 4800 empty, due to all of 3 chargable added wt options, auto trans, hitch and trim rings on rims, is licensed at 8000 lbs. I am ONLY legal to 8000 lbs, the 8600 door sticker means squat! If I am at 8600 lbs when pulled over, I am over wt, and may get ticketed accordingly! Payload as noted, should be the difference between the truck as manufactured, setup etc, wt, from the gvwr. My trucks typically have pipe racks or equal on them, so in reality, my c2500 weighs in empty with no one in it at 5100 lbs, so 300 lbs less than the door sticker to work with! My MDT on the other hand, came as an incomplete vehicle, its finale tare is based on what kind of bed I put on it. I can also put on tag or drop axles, to get more gvwr than the door sticker says it should be. It is up to the company that puts the bed on, to certify the final gvwr, and payload. The payload and tare will be based on a drive thru a certified scale after manufacture. MANY ways to get these numbers. Marty
blt2ski 02/23/15 10:32am Towing
RE: Answering "How Much" Questions

Overhang will be an issue with Type A and C motor homes. ALONG WITH many pickups with campers that the owners put extensions on the hitch, so they can hook up ORC trailers, many of which are surge brakes. This can be both enclosed or open trailers. Boats are another commonly towed trailer within the RV industry. THere are probably a higher % of Surge brakes than one wants to think or believe. This potential issue needs to be thought about, if one is going to put together a "BEST practice Towing guide". Pintle hitches are probably not going to be found in any great numbers in the RV industry. Construction or related towing industries, probably a lot. But if someone in that industry is looking for "Best Practice towing", they might look at an rv site to get the info via search engines etc. So some of the issues within this type of towing, should at least be mentioned, or thought about! One should also look at it from a legal prospective. A Type A motor home with a manufactures GAWR of 25K lbs, does not get to run down the road legally at 25K lbs. They only get 20K lbs on it! There are a few instances where upwards of 22K can be put an individual axel, not sure that would be in the RV industry. If Jerome or anyone wants to put out guidelines, charts, excel programs etc, with this info, it should attempt at including many of the minor things that can make or break a person in how well they may or may not tow things within the RV industry! Assuming this is aimed at ONLY the RV industry. Ron has a formula that works fairly well, probably 50-75% of the time for how much wt is pulled off the FA depending upon overhang etc. The issue I see with it, is it does not take into account the different spring rates of vehicles. OR if it has a self leveling system. These items in my experience do effect how much wt is taken off the FA. Some times a bit more, some a bit less. IT is a reasonably good start. Marty
blt2ski 02/22/15 01:37pm Towing
RE: 2009 GMC Sierra 3500 issue

Where about in seattle are you? Just because the batteries read 12.7 with no load, does not mean with a load they will not get too low or equal. Marty
blt2ski 02/21/15 10:56pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Answering "How Much" Questions

Something you have not done, nor has anyone else that I have seen trying to do these calculators. Lets assume 4 or 5 equal gvwr tow rigs, all towing the same trailer, all have the ability to carry a 1000 lbs hitch/pin wt. One is a 15 passenger Ford van. That very long overhang, 7-9' or so, this will take a bit of weight off the front,will swag say 400-500 lbs, added to the rear axel, potentially overloading the rear, causing some handling issues..... A typical pickup, has around 5', so maybe 200-300 lbs off the FA, added to the rear, not as bad as the Ford van.....still some issues. Some SUV's actually have a semi short overhang of 4', still better yet to a degree. A rig setup initially as a cab and chassis, may have its hitch as little as 3' in front of the rear axel. Giving it the least wt added to the rear via wt off the front. Probably the best potential handling rig for a ball mount setup. This might be as little as 100 lbs or so off the FA. Reality, for a typical 8 lug truck, not an issue! Some of the 5 or 6 lug rigs, with softer suspensions, this drop, removal of weight off the FA may be more. Different legnth wheel bases can also effect how much is off the FA. Then if you include a 5w/gooseneck right over the axe to just in front, you have 95-100% of the HW going to the rear, nothing taken off the front. I know some will say with the ball mounts, that is what a WD system is for. BUT in some cases, a WD will not work. IE a pintle hitch. I have heard of one that might work. Surge brakes is another that is not normally recommended with a WD system. So these two rigs will have potential handling issues. Still under gvwr and maybe under an RAWR. While charts etc are good, they do have places that will not always work if you look at just the numbers per say. While I realize I have probably thrown a monkey wrench in the program. One needs to keep things like this in mind when choosing a rig for a given trailer size etc, along with the basic numbers. Marty
blt2ski 02/21/15 06:40pm Towing
RE: Did your parents own a Ford?

Maternal grandfather had a dealer....ooops....steelership in seattle up to and just after the 29 crash......met my grandmother that way, sold her a car, she kept coming in to get it repaired...... He always had the suicide door Continentals. Bought a different one every 9-12 months or so. Had a friend that still had a place in Bremerton. He would get a nice one in, grandpa headed over, came back with a new one to him any how. Drove her crazy....... Dad had a 66 Great Mountain Climber while I was in Elementry into jr high. Had to walk to elementry. Jr high was too far, so they bused me for a bit, new school built. 1 mile all uphill! Mom had a VW bug....gutless 62 wonder was it! than a toyota, then a string of nissans with step dad, Final car was a 280zx! Wish she was still around.... marty
blt2ski 02/20/15 10:43pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

Your problem is, you are trying to keep it simple. When in reality, it is NEVER that simple. At the end of the day, one needs to spec based on multiple items. Yes the typicle gvwr, gawr, gcwr etc. BUT, you need empty axel wts, how much wt of a given type is added to which axel. I found with my 96 crew cab 100% of my families 1200 lbs went to the rear axel. Very little if any was added to the front axel. Add in 1200 lbs of family, 200-400 or so of other items, sometimes more, hw in the 700 lb range on a ball mount. I had a SW 9200 gvwr crew cab truck, base wt of 6600, 4500 on the front, 2100 on the rear, in the 5000-5500 on the rear, 4300-4500 on the front. Typical total gvw I was 9000-9500 lbs. Along with 6000-6500 lbs on the trailer axels. Total, 15-16K lbs, depending upon how and where were heading too etc. Close to 2200-3000 lbs was added to the base trailer axel in clothes, bedding, food, water etc for a family of 6. I even added ski gear in the winter. Then once snow load of 4-5000 lbs to the trailer and another 2-3000 in the truck. Came home after being stuck at the top of I90 and 6' of snow over 48 hrs at just over 20K lbs total! There is a weigh scale part way home.......... It is also not hard if you improperly load a truck, to be over a RA capacity, still be with in gvw if you do not understand how the wts gets transfered thru the suspension. Get ahold of a FORD or equal cab and chassis design spec book, you will learn way the heck more than you already know. You will figure out, it is also not simple per say to know what you can or can not load etc. Also, to a degree, while you and others, do not like talking about, or putting the legal aspect into things like this. You had better do so. If this calculator was used for a Type A motor home. The manufacture specs a 25K GRAWR, you can NOT legally put 25K on that axel. You only get 20K lbs per federal law. Just as you are having issues with the loading part of the equation. You can have issues both sides of the manufacture warranty rating, and the legal load rating of a given vehicle. One needs to know both sides! Marty
blt2ski 02/19/15 09:37pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

Oh, I have some GM OM's from the 80's, those even state, If I stay under 25mph, I can up the tow ratings by 25%! Along with, as Jimlin and I have HAD to deal with legal issues pulling trailers with our rigs. We know, that LEO/CVEO's may or may not in most situations enforce manufactures ratings. There have been 5 or 6 former and current CVEO's that post on here. NONE of them enforce manufactures ratings. They state they are "warranty/performance ratings" only! Marty
blt2ski 02/19/15 08:03am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

There you go! as I have been stating. The reason to go NOT go over the manufactures ratings are, handling, shortens the life of the vehicle, ALONG WITH as I have stated, warranty will and can be denied. THOSE are the reasons for NOT going over the manufactures ratings. I can design a trailer that will move a million lbs of cargo on it, it would take special permits etc. Hook up 5 or 6 duramax or equal powered pickups, move the load the 500-1000 miles max the state and Federal DOT would let me and be legal! Yeah said pickups might be toasted at the end. BUT, there is no law(s) that state I can not do this. I can find multitudes of them that state I can. So at the end, I sell the pickups to a junk yard.....oh well, cost of doing business. As I also stated earlier, the SAE specs use 4 starts forward and backward on a 12% grade as minimum spec. What happens if I am at the supposid rated GCWR on a 30% grade? probably will not move! I do not know the min std is 12%, fry a transmission, I pay for the todays 10K auto tranny replacement. It was $3000 back in 91 when I fried a th400 on a low 20% grade driveway 4K under the gcwr GM gave me for that particular R3500 dually cab and chassis rig I had. Since this time, I have not trusted manufactures ratings to do what I need a rig to do. Hence why when I bought my MDT, I made sure the drive train would go up 30% grades at the wt I would be driving at. up to 30K lbs. I can do this with a 185/335 non turbo 7.3 diesel. My no sold 05 dmax dually, 26% at 20K lbs, my 96 6.5td with a whopping 12500 gcwr, can do 30% at 20K lbs. Neither the 7.3 or 6.5 are as fast as the dmax at any equal weight on a 3-5% freeway grade. BUT< they will get to the job site if the grade is over 25-26%, vs the dmax will stall out on the steeper grades, 3000lbs BELOW it stated gcwr. If I toast the tranny overheating it. I've bought the tranny. Its more important for folks to know "what is behind" the door of the ratings. Which is generally speaking, hard to find out in light duty trucks. One can find the meanings, how a rig is rated in MDT and HDT trucks. It is very easy to have a truck speced to your needs in the upper ranges. Where as with light duty trucks you get a one size fits all. A problem with the SAE specs. I as a contractor know I will be driving up local roads and driveways that are in these grade percentages. I NEED and WANT to know if a rig will do what I NEED it to do. This is what the ratings need to tell me. How I can also modify them to suit my needs. I made a dmax engineer squirm at te factory on 9-7-11, ie friday before 9-11. I asked, how steep a grade I could pull in first gear. He said with BIG googly eyes, its a mtn climber! I replied, yeah right. I was told that about my 89! So how steep a grade can I pull? as I have/had a formula to tell me the intitial grade starting of the rig, at the time, it was around 20% at 20K lbs with the mid 500 lbs of torque it had. more than the R3500, still less than my NV4500 trannied 6.5! He did not like what I was saying, had to look at another person there, I gave them an email so they could send me the specs at the office, not in the lunchroom where we were at......NEVER got the actual spec to see if my figures were correct! My step father was an engineer at Boeing. He was the one that showed me not to always trust an engineer spec or rating. If I the end user did not say what spec I needed, it would probably get designed incorrectly. I've used that motto in 30 some odd years of being a contractor too. If the std spec for the pavers, wall block etc does not seem to be correct, I ask an engineer to verify my gut feeling that it is indeed incorrect, then how do I need to build the project to meet the spec! As I have said before, I can run legally down the road OVER the manufactures ratings, not get an overweight ticket, IF I have bought/paid enough tax to cover the damage to the road bed I am doing. As long as I do not go over 20K per axel, for most of us with single wheel rigs, this will be 10K per axel as we do not have enough tire width to bridge/spread the load over the road bed! Can an LEO get me off the road at or just below these limits. Oh trust me......I'm screwed if I am at 20K in my C2500, or 32K in my dually pickup! I'll be taken off the road with something wrong! 2-300 lbs over a manufactures gvwr rating......unless the trailer is swaying more than 12-18" side to side, speeding etc, an leo/cveo will not even look at me! The only folks that will look at me will be the RVNET weight police! Marty
blt2ski 02/19/15 08:01am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

Title 49 is what an OEM has to build to. The individual states, do not enforce this spec in licensing or equal. As there is not a way to field test this spec when you are pulled over.So the states whether own field tests that will hold up in court. One can spout all they want about this or that spec, but from a legal field test or equal issue, it needs to be black,k and white for an Leo to ticket, or get you off the road somehow with a law. Mean while in civil.court, the bar is much lower, so some of these specs will hold up in court. I know in Washington state, NONE of these specs are used by Leo or cveo folks. Marty Don't really understand the reason you want to bring enforcement or other legal issues into this thread. That's not part of the discussion, nor should it be. Title 49 is related to what is required for manufacturers and as such, manufacturers are required place a certification label on the vehicle that includes GVWR, GAWRs, ect. Those are the weights that are never supposed to be exceeded, as well as the GCWR. And when determining towing capacity, GVWR, GCWR and GVW are used. Its not part of the disCUSSion......wrong! you yourself are saying one needs to stay below the manufactures ratings. From a legal standpoint, that is SOOOOo totally false it is not funny. From a warranty standpoint, YES you need to stay under the ratings. BUT, there is NO LAW that states you need to stay under the manufactures ratings! So from MY standpoint, yes it is recomended you stay under the ratings.........BUT you will not be hauled off to jail for being over those ratings. You will not be fined for JUST being over those ratings, nor will you get any kind of ticket from a law enforcement person for being over said ratings. IT IS LEGAL to be over the ratings! So when you and others state, I have to be under these ratings like it is a law, legal etc. You have brought the law part of this into this disCUSSion! The ONLY weight law you have to follow, is the "Federal Bridge Laws" which state you get up to and no more than 20K lbs per axel. An LEO or equal can not stop you, bring you to jail etc for being over this amount. They can get you fined! they can make you move the load so you are under this wt, assuming it is possible to do so....This is also a non following fine, unlike a speeding ticket which can follow you around! So for all the "sky is falling" baloney you and others are saying about being over weight, is very false! IF you are truly unsafe in operation, stopping due to field tests etc.....oh, your screwed! but being overweight will not hurt you in the least per say! Marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 10:41pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

Tranzam, I've pushed, moved upwards of 4500 lbs pallets with my 765 bobcat. 150% of the tip load, and 300% of the lift load! I've even on some uphills, gotten the 4500 lb load to ride off the ground! I've even used my 1 yd light material bucket to move a friggen yard of crushed rock! That gets kinda fun. Along with changing my shorts due to being brown taking a 4K pallet off the side of a trailer. Sometimes it goes down slow....others not so slow! So your point about overloading the tires.....just a couple or three or more times......of losing track of finners and toes being overloaded. Sometimes even that many times a day....... i've owned the 765 since new in 99, had a case 1835 before that. now I just have fun on the 765 and my tbo15 mini back saver excavator! I can put both on my equipment trailer and tow both to a job site. Remove the trackhoe from the front sideways to the ground. Wish the trailer was 2-3000lbs heavier on the axels, and 4-6' longer, then I could put the extra bucket and forks in the front, along with other tools I use too! Maybe someday, but right now, not doing as much landscaping as I used to, so probably will not buy a bigger trailer. marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 10:32pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

Title 49 is what an OEM has to build to. The individual states, do not enforce this spec in licensing or equal. As there is not a way to field test this spec when you are pulled over.So the states whether own field tests that will hold up in court. One can spout all they want about this or that spec, but from a legal field test or equal issue, it needs to be black,k and white for an Leo to ticket, or get you off the road somehow with a law. Mean while in civil.court, the bar is much lower, so some of these specs will hold up in court. I know in Washington state, NONE of these specs are used by Leo or cveo folks. Marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 05:28pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

The issue with the shuttle. Reality us, that HW SUV IIRC as to what it was, may very well could be certified by an engineer to d that day in and out. While some may say hog wash, reality is, moving said shuttle at 1-3 mph day.in and out has a different spec than towing at 60 mph! Same with the tires on my bobcat 10.5-16.5 tires in an LR d can Cary 4500 lbs. It if you read the teeny tiny fine print, the limit is 3000 lbs if speeds over 25 mph are ran. Same as a typical truck tire in the same size. Specs can vary based on usage. Just as for MY use, the said towing specs are a crock of smelly stuff out the rear of a bull! How often have you had this Bobcat on two wheels? I did a good rendition of chubby checkers twist once, does that count?!?!?! On the rear wheels. Never figured out how to do on the fronts only........ Who is this Dr Dwyer? Some have not read spec books on specing BIG trucks either. Marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 12:25pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

The issue with the shuttle. Reality us, that HW SUV IIRC as to what it was, may very well could be certified by an engineer to d that day in and out. While some may say hog wash, reality is, moving said shuttle at 1-3 mph day.in and out has a different spec than towing at 60 mph! Same with the tires on my bobcat 10.5-16.5 tires in an LR d can Cary 4500 lbs. It if you read the teeny tiny fine print, the limit is 3000 lbs if speeds over 25 mph are ran. Same as a typical truck tire in the same size. Specs can vary based on usage. Just as for MY use, the said towing specs are a crock of smelly stuff out the rear of a bull!
blt2ski 02/18/15 10:31am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow Capacity Comparisons For 2015 Trucks

LOL some people on this forum can't be satisfied. Every day it seems like there is a post of someone wanting to pull a heavy fifth wheel with a 3/4 ton and the responses are "sure you can tow it, but you will be way over your gvwr, you need more truck". Then this tow guide comes out and gives probably some of the most accurate ratings because they take into account all the numbers, most importantly gvwr and the people here are balking that the numbers are way too low because "the manufacturers say it can tow xxxx lbs". A 25 series truck can probably pull safely no less MORE than what the manufacture says, including staying with in gvwr depending upon numurous items. ISSUE I HAVE with any tow rating, is what is the true specification being used? Does it match up with MY specification I NEED to tow a trailer to where I NEED to tow a trailer too! That includes grades into the mid and upper 20% range. If you look at the new spec, the engineers have only speced a 12% grade. So said rig will pull using there specs, question is, how does one change deduct or equal, their spec to work in MY situation! Payload weight capacity is easy, but the actual performance spec part is the hard one! The other spec, is a max 80 sq ft trailer! How many of you with front bedroom slide rigs have 100-120 sqft trailers? quite a few. So with no deduct for over sized sq footage, you could have warranty denial issues. For ea 3-4 sq ft over base, is an approx equal to adding 1000 lbs of hp needed to move an equal unit. So with 120 sq ft of trailer vs the spec of 80, that is upwards of an additional 10-15K lbs of trailer equal! More to pulling a trailer than meets the eye than just the wt specs than the engineers in Detroit or equal have given you! Marty Marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 07:22am Tow Vehicles
RE: How rigid is payload number

Insurance company died alive driver, he at the end received his stunt fees from dead mans family and insurance company. As head was legal per state and federal laws. You must autocorrect on that phone....LOL thanks Don, Think I would have learned after one or two of these on the phone.......Lolol is correct. Marty
blt2ski 02/18/15 07:13am Travel Trailers
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