I am looking for anyone who has experience with male Goldens. Hope this is an appropriate subject for this forum, but I'm desperate for anyone's help.
My son acquired a 4 year old male Golden, about 3 months ago, from an acquaintance, in a divorce situation. There are two small children in my son's family, 5 and 3 years old. Up until now he has seemed to be the perfect pet, but this weekend my entire family went to the lake. Another son also has a 6 year old female Golden and the third son had a new Shorkie, male, about 9 month old. The male showed a lot of aggression in the water, racing the female for a ball. Bit the female and drew blood. Later we were all on the porch and the male Golden, for some reason nobody saw, delivered a fatal bite to the puppy, crushing it's skull.
I am concerned that a dog like this can show this kind of aggression against one of the children, although he has never even growled at one of them, in spite of the kind of abuse a 3 to 5 year old can dish out. The dog has been neutered, if that matters.
I am very concerned, but my son dismisses the possibility that this aggression can be shown against the children.
I'm aware that this is a tough subject to comment on, but was hoping for some help from anyone who may have had or know of some specific case that may be helpful in dealing with this situation. Thanks to all who took the time to read.
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Pretty obvious the dog has had no socializing and no disclipin. At 5 years old they sre going to need professional help training him. Or get him someplace where he cannot harm anyone. I suspect abuse by previous owner could be part of the problem too.
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donn0128 wrote: Pretty obvious the dog has had no socializing and no disclipin. At 5 years old they sre going to need professional help training him. Or get him someplace where he cannot harm anyone. I suspect abuse by previous owner could be part of the problem too.
The dog has been very well behaved around humans and showed no sign of aggressive behavior. He has an exceptional vocabulary, for a dog, and follows commands well. I've seen abused dogs. Had a neighbor who rescued them.
You may have to use a humane muzzle when in an area with other dogs, and watch a few episodes of Cesar Millan in the "Dog Whisperer". He has amazing results with dogs with such issues.
Aggression in any uncontrolled form such as killing another dog is not to be tolerated. If Animal Control agencies become involved...things could get ugly.
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mike, I don't have specific info on Golden Retrievers/aggression but I agree with you. This dog may have serious issues, and may be one for the experts. I would not trust him. I love dogs but if there is ANY suspicious behavior, no children would ever be near this dog.
I think this dog is in need of a serious intervention with an expert if they insist on it continuing to live. This is an aggressive dog and it really doesn't matter how well behaved it was in the past. I would NEVER allow the dog around any children.
Dogs act on instinct, they are not human and can not reason. It is quite possible that the dog is suffering from some physical ailment that could have sparked the behavior.
However your son owes it to his children to remove the dog from his home. I would not want to take the chance that the next victim could be human. The dog needs to go.
The only male golden we have experience with is the neighbors 8 yr. old male golden and he is the sweetest dog ever. Just a big dumb happy dog. This is NOT anywhere on the scale of normal dog behavior.
I think your son is being extremely foolish to dismiss concerns about the dog's aggressiveness. I would immediately have a full medical work-up done by a vet to rule out any physical causes for aggression. And your son needs to find a good trainer ASAP who has experience dealing with aggressive dogs who can do a live, in person evaluation. In the meantime I would advise against allowing the dog to have any interaction with young children.
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Kids that young combined with a new dog that's known to have reacted to any situation with violence is a disaster waiting to happen.
The three year old is especially at risk- the most common reason dogs bite kids is because little ones want to get close and look straight into a dog's eyes. Many dogs take that as a provocation, and react to it.
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We have had 3 male Golden or Golden mix dogs over the last 30 years and all of them were the sweetest most loving dogs you could ever find around dogs, cats, and children. I would be highly suspect of this dog. If the dog is neutered and is still this aggressive I hate to say it but have it checked by a vet and if they find no illness it may be necessary to put him down. Golden's are probably the most laid back loving dogs ever, something is drastically wrong here.
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