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RE: Looks innocent enough.....

I hit where road construction left a ditch going across the pavement today. Shortly after the dash displayed trailer wiring fault and I noticed I had no trailer brakes. It turned out hitting the ditch caused the leaf springs to flex enough to allow the trailer axle tubes to hit the frame rails. One of the brake wires got smashed between the frame and the axle tube causing a short circuit. Fortunately I was able to fix the wires before needing to stop in a hurry. Probably wouldn't have had the problem if I wasn't hauling 10,000 lbs over the trailer's gvwr. Time for a tridem dually with disc brakes. (If they're available)
4x4ord 05/20/18 04:40am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

Wonder if Ford will come out with a software fix for this AC behaviour, at least turn it off completely when towing? Or if they even are aware that it's an issue. Do all Platinums have AC by default? If so, AlexLeBlanc should see the same behaviour with his 17 Plat F350. Adaptive Cruise is an option that is only available with the Platinum trim level. Probably most Platinums will have it. My Lariat has it, but I think it is a rare option in the Lariat trim. I've already seen the collision warning system activate, but haven't played around with the AC system. You're right, it can be ordered as an option on the Lariate. Because it isn't included in the Lariate ultimate package it likely is rarely ordered on its own. ($740 option).
4x4ord 05/18/18 06:31pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Cruise Control

The Ford with adaptive cruise control applies the wheel brakes when descending down hill and illuminates the brake lights. If the brakes get too hot It sounds a warning and shuts cruise off. Your Chevy might be the same.
4x4ord 05/18/18 05:32am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

With a lighter trailer it is not as easy to observe what is happening. When you've got 32000 lbs hooked to the ball and start going down a steep grade the truck holds the set speed without increasing the turbo boost pressure. If you take CC off the transmission needs to drop three gears to be able to hold the speed. (So it is obvious that the wheel brakes are being applied automatically with cc) Driving the truck is not as bad as I first thought now that I know what to expect. I leave the exhaust brake set to auto and just tap the brake pedal at the top of the hill to gain control of things. I keep my foot on the acelerator until I want grade braking, at which point I just release the throttle. (On a long steep grade I might have to brake to get slowed down to a speed the exhaust brake is capable of holding). Do you think that the trailer being 12,000 pounds over the weight rating of your truck might be the cause for extra help from the brakes? When CC is engaged with or without a trailer in tow the system applies wheel brakes when going down hill. It might downshift 1 gear but there is little to no engine braking performed. If CC is cancelled the truck will pick up a little speed and downshift as required.
4x4ord 05/16/18 06:07pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

It still applies the wheel brakes when set to normal cruise. I did a little more reading in my owner's manual. It explains the following: Hilly Condition and Trailer Tow Usage Note: An audible alarm sounds and the system shuts down if it applies brakes for an extended period of time. This allows the brakes to cool. The system functions normally again when the brakes have cooled. Note: When towing with adaptive cruise control, turn on Tow/Haul Mode and Diesel Engine Brake. Select a lower gear when the system is active in situations such as prolonged downhill driving on steep grades, for example in mountainous areas. The system needs additional engine braking in these situations to reduce the load on the vehicle’s regular brake system to prevent it from overheating.
4x4ord 05/16/18 04:55pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

... I would be talking to Ford about this! The whole idea of a exhaust brake is to keep cold service brakes for an emergency, if this is applying the trailer brakes also that is double bad. Yes, I'll bet Ford is not even aware that it's an issue. When you bet "Ford" is not aware that it's an issue; who is "Ford"? Whoever wrote the cruise control software must know that the brakes come on to hold the speed set point. Maybe on a long grade the brakes will release and the cruise will kick off rather than having the brakes maintain the speed till the brake fluid boils and the rotors warp.
4x4ord 05/16/18 02:52am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

Wonder if Ford will come out with a software fix for this AC behaviour, at least turn it off completely when towing? Or if they even are aware that it's an issue. Do all Platinums have AC by default? If so, AlexLeBlanc should see the same behaviour with his 17 Plat F350. Adaptive Cruise is an option that is only available with the Platinum trim level. Probably most Platinums will have it.
4x4ord 05/15/18 06:14am Tow Vehicles
RE: 7 pin connector

There should be a 30 amp fuse located in the number 27 position in the power distribution box under the hood. Check to make sure the fuse is not damaged or missing on your truck number 27 in the power distribution box is for the hot wire in the connector ... the one oclock position on the truck end. The centre pin is for reverse.
4x4ord 05/14/18 10:45pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

So with my Platinum I can set CC to normal or adaptive. When I select normal the dic displays "Normal cruise control active. Adaptive braking off." Even with cruise set to normal when I come to a hill the computer applies the wheel brakes to maintain almost precisley the set speed. However.... with the 2017 Lariate that I drove today, which doesn't have adaptive cruise, the cruise control does not apply the wheel brakes. It slowly starts picking up speed as it rolls down the hill. When it passes a certain threshold (about 5 mph) it downshifts and activated the exhaust brake.
4x4ord 05/14/18 04:39pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I'm pretty sure none of the Ford's automatically apply the brakes in any of the tow haul modes. Now the "Hill Decent" mode will apply the brakes and this is for going slow down steep grades as this system will maintain the exact speed when you apply the brakes pedal. By applying the brake pedal you reduce the speed 1 mph and is a pretty good feature. My '12 in tow/haul mode you simply apply the brakes to initiate the exhaust brake once and that's it. No brake application is every applied automatically. I've had a 2011 Powetstroke, a 2016 and now the 2017. It is only the 2017 that applies the wheel brakes on CC. Then that would be your Adaptive Cruise control feature. Nope.... Go fish. I was thinking the same as Fish, since it only happens on the newest truck. And I know of no other CC that applies the brakes, other than the Adaptive variety. All this newer programming that automatically applies the brakes might just have unintended consequences. I will be driving a 2017 Lariate today which doesn't have adaptive cc; I'll see how it behaves. My thoughts are that the adaptive part of CC is tied in with radar to maintain following distance.Because we are discussing the wheel brakes coming on to maintain set speed on a downhill I'm guessing braking will be a function of the regular CC as well.
4x4ord 05/14/18 06:45am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I've never felt my 2017 apply the brakes on its own when the EB is and on CC - it will downshift going down grades. Either way i'm happy with the performance. My first suspicion of the CC applying the brakes occurred prior to ever hooking up to a trailer. I noticed my brake lights come on in the rearview mirror when descending hills at night.
4x4ord 05/14/18 06:05am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I looked in the owner's manual under the towing section. It doesnt explain how the cruise works but does state the following: "Turn off the speed control with heavy loads or in hilly terrain. The speed control may turn off automatically when you are towing on long, steep grades."
4x4ord 05/14/18 06:00am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I'm pretty sure none of the Ford's automatically apply the brakes in any of the tow haul modes. Now the "Hill Decent" mode will apply the brakes and this is for going slow down steep grades as this system will maintain the exact speed when you apply the brakes pedal. By applying the brake pedal you reduce the speed 1 mph and is a pretty good feature. My '12 in tow/haul mode you simply apply the brakes to initiate the exhaust brake once and that's it. No brake application is every applied automatically. I've had a 2011 Powetstroke, a 2016 and now the 2017. It is only the 2017 that applies the wheel brakes on CC. Then that would be your Adaptive Cruise control feature. Nope.... Go fish.
4x4ord 05/13/18 10:58pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I'm pretty sure none of the Ford's automatically apply the brakes in any of the tow haul modes. Now the "Hill Decent" mode will apply the brakes and this is for going slow down steep grades as this system will maintain the exact speed when you apply the brakes pedal. By applying the brake pedal you reduce the speed 1 mph and is a pretty good feature. My '12 in tow/haul mode you simply apply the brakes to initiate the exhaust brake once and that's it. No brake application is every applied automatically. I've had a 2011 Powetstroke, a 2016 and now the 2017. It is only the 2017 that applies the wheel brakes on CC.
4x4ord 05/13/18 12:47pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

With a lighter trailer it is not as easy to observe what is happening. When you've got 32000 lbs hooked to the ball and start going down a steep grade the truck holds the set speed without increasing the turbo boost pressure. If you take CC off the transmission needs to drop three gears to be able to hold the speed. (So it is obvious that the wheel brakes are being applied automatically with cc) Driving the truck is not as bad as I first thought now that I know what to expect. I leave the exhaust brake set to auto and just tap the brake pedal at the top of the hill to gain control of things. I keep my foot on the acelerator until I want grade braking, at which point I just release the throttle. (On a long steep grade I might have to brake to get slowed down to a speed the exhaust brake is capable of holding).
4x4ord 05/13/18 08:55am Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I REALLY don't get this brake application on the Fords! I want cold brakes "IF" I need them. I tow at 33-35k combined, I leave TH and EB on ALL the time. I tow in cruise up and down grades as much as 14% without brake applications. The trick is to select the gear going downhill that you would have used to climb the same grade. Auto mode is useless I'm my opinion! This whole TFL brake application is a JOKE. Human intervention and how to do so should be shown!!! I agree....whoever is responsible for the decision to program the brakes to come on to hold the CC selected speed should be slapped. The auto exhaust brake works good for lighter trailers and or shorter grades. Like you say: on a long steep grade with a heavy load it is essential that you use a low enough gear to hold back without using wheel brakes.
4x4ord 05/13/18 08:02am Tow Vehicles
2017 Ford exhaust brake and cruise control

I've been observing how my truck behaves hooked up to a heavy trailer and going down hills. With CC engaged the computer applies the wheel brakes to maintain the set speed. When using the exhaust brake I've noticed that when auto mode is selected the computer will try to hold the truck to the speed that the vehicle was travelling when the throttle was released. In order to do this it will automatically downshift the transmission and adjust the turbo vanes to get the necessary braking. When the exhaust brake is set to the on position (as opposed to auto) the transmission downshifts as normal .... ie the transmission doesn't downshift until the wheel brakes are applied. With the exhaust brake on the turbo vanes move to restrict the exhaust flow. So when going down grades I'm hitting cancel on the cruise control and useing the auto mode on the exhaust brake.
4x4ord 05/13/18 06:41am Tow Vehicles
RE: Tow vehicle

A 2500 diesel is good for a tent trailer. Its a heavy truck with no payLoad. Get a 3500 SRW. It's the same truck ... same price; the difference is it has rear springs that offer some payload.
4x4ord 05/12/18 02:08pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Suspension damage

Whoever you talked to at the dealership doesn't know what he's talking about. Phone Kia or go to a different dealer.
4x4ord 05/12/18 07:23am Tow Vehicles
RE: What's your thoughts on the Duramax?

I find it hard to believe that I've got the one piece of junk that GM built. Mine overheats; the transmission slips when you work it hard (then it goes into limp mode); the radio doesn't work; the power door locks don't work; the power windows don't work; 4wd doesn't engage. It only has about 150,000 miles on it. I guess the good thing is I haven't spent much money on it . Edit: Additionally the A/C doesn't work and half the time the battery goes dead while sitting for more than a day.
4x4ord 05/11/18 03:32pm Tow Vehicles
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