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RE: 3:55 or 4:10

Towing even a very heavy holiday trailer down the highway at 65 mph only requires about 120 horsepower. What is the purpose of having your engine revving 2000 rpm in 6th gear where it is capable of delivering close to 300 hp to the rear wheels, Having a 3.73 gear ratio iinstead of a 4.30 would bring that rpm down to about 1735 which is still plenty high.....At 1735 the new Powerstroke is capable of delivering about 240 hp to the rear wheels. When I need more power than that I am happy to see the truck drop a gear or two where it can more directly and efficiently transfer the higher power to the rear wheels.
4x4ord 07/27/16 02:55pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 3:55 or 4:10

So the 2017 f350 drw now offers a 3.55 final drive ratio? If so I might even get a dually next time. If you run in 4th gear with 3.55 gears pulling hills you will be running similar rpm as 5th gear with 4.10 gears. 4th with 3.55 is a more efficient selection. Why would you want your transmission to run in overdrive - speeding things up just to slow it back down with the rear end gears. There is power lost in speeding things up and more power lost slowing it back down again. On the low end 935 ft lbs of torque running through 1st gear on the 6r140 certainly doesn't need 4.10 gears to get a little 15000 lb trailer rolling.
4x4ord 07/25/16 01:11pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 3:55 or 4:10

It depends on tire size engine torque/power curves, transmission gear ratios, your specific use....weight/desired towing speeds/hills. Our Peter built has 3.43 final drives and tows over 100,000 lbs.
4x4ord 07/25/16 08:07am Tow Vehicles
RE: It almost happened

Your were quick thinking, clever, and lucky. Have you had any warranty work done since? Has the dealer raised any questions? The incidence happened in the first months of the truck being new. I had no trouble with the truck since and sold it 5 years later with 100,000 miles on it. I was fortunate I guess. I suppose if a person puts gasoline in their diesel truck and brings it to the dealer, the dealer would change the fuel system and I suppose the owner would most likely have their insurance cover the cost....so they would be out the deductible. I guess if they don't bring it in and a problem shows up 3 months later it might be hard to get the insurance to look after the bill?
4x4ord 07/23/16 06:20pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Question on 2016 Power Stroke

I'm curious. What value is there in increasing cetane?
4x4ord 07/23/16 10:18am Tow Vehicles
RE: It almost happened

I filled my 2011 Powerstroke with gas. After getting about a mile from the service station it started pinging something terrible. I drove it another 3 or 4 miles to a friend's place where I unhooked the hose under the hood at the secondary fuel filter. I got my wife to meet me there with a Jerry can of diesel. I spliced a hose onto the supply line under the hood and put that hose directly into my wife's Acura. I turned the truck's ignition to run and filled up my wife's car. Then I filled up my friend's gasoline pickup. Then poured the Jerry can of diesel into the truck and carried on. Had I contacted a Ford garage I would have had a $20,000 bill to pay.
4x4ord 07/23/16 06:30am Tow Vehicles
RE: New diesel shopping

My vote is for Ford but I wouldn't pay a premium for it over a GM. I never got a price on the Ram before buying my 2016. I should have at least gotten a price on one. The 3500 GM rides very nice probably better than the f350. The f350 really hops and pushes bad when turning sharp in 4x4 on dry pavement. The head lights are better on the GM. I have always thought the Duramax/Allison was the perfect power train for a pick up. As strong as that power train is I think the Powerstroke and Cummins are even mightier.....but really who cares. Make certain you get the 3:31 ratio final drive if you buy a Ford. this time around we drove all three back to back and various trim levels in each. After that we decided on either Ford or Chev. I just didn't like the Ram, even though it was a good truck. We then went to see who could get us the best price and even tried multiple dealers for both. After all that we finally decided on this truck. It was about a month of shopping to decide on tthis one and I am confident that we made the right decision. Why do you recommend the 3-31 gears in the Ford? I don't fully understand why but there is no doubt whatsoever that the 3:31 gears deliver significantly better fuel economy than 3:55 gears. (I wonder if the 3.31 equipped trucks could be tuned different than the 3.55 trucks?) The 3:55 gears with 20" rims don't rev a whole lot different than the 3.31 gears with 18" rims (about a 3% difference in rpm at the same ground speed) yet the fuel economy is a good 15% better with the 3.31 equipped truck. These trucks have so much torque that getting a heavy load moving is a non issue. When towing very heavy loads, I have no trouble getting the load moving and I have the option of locking out 6th gear (even 5th if I want) and running the power more directly through the gear box. This makes for a more efficient transfer of power which is a good idea under heavy load conditions.
4x4ord 07/22/16 01:11pm Tow Vehicles
RE: New diesel shopping

My vote is for Ford but I wouldn't pay a premium for it over a GM. I never got a price on the Ram before buying my 2016. I should have at least gotten a price on one. The 3500 GM rides very nice probably better than the f350. The f350 really hops and pushes bad when turning sharp in 4x4 on dry pavement. The head lights are better on the GM. I have always thought the Duramax/Allison was the perfect power train for a pick up. As strong as that power train is I think the Powerstroke and Cummins are even mightier.....but really who cares. Make certain you get the 3:31 ratio final drive if you buy a Ford.
4x4ord 07/22/16 05:26am Tow Vehicles
RE: Question on 2016 Power Stroke

I think mine cleans the filter about once every 450 miles. I think it may have done it more often when it was new. What axle ratio do you have?
4x4ord 07/21/16 10:24pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 PSD numbers are in FLT Offical ?

I can't believe ford has to use their f450 to use as towing comparisons to everyone else's 1 tons. What is the difference between an F250 vs F350 vs F450. Are they not all the same basic truck just equipped with different tires, suspension and differentials? I guess if someone wants to regularly tow 30,000 lbs they may want an F450 if they go Ford or a 3500 Ram. Personally I would never buy an F450 no matter what trailer I was towing. If a 3.73 axle in an F350 couldn't do the job I would get a big truck.
4x4ord 07/21/16 05:24pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2016 Ford 250, 350 Super Duty

We had a 2010 Duramax and 2011 F350. We traded them in on two 2016 F350's. The 2016 has a much better exhaust brake but the '11 did better on fuel. If I could do it again I would have got King Ranches with the 3:31 gears instead of the Platinums with the 3:55's. The 3:31 gets much better fuel economy. (I believe it is tuned different, because the rpm difference that the two trucks run at is minimal .... 3:31 with 18' rims vs the 3:55 with 20's.) The difference in tire diameter is the reason for the different gearing. There should be no difference in fuel usage. The snow plow preparation package will get you the 3.55's with 18" tires, that is the best option for heavy towing. You're right there should be no difference in the the fuel usage, but there is. There is a big difference in fuel economy between the the 3:31 gears and 3:55 that is why i believe there is a difference in the factory tuning between the two trucks. It is interesting that in the owners manual the expected range of how far the truck will travel on a tank of DEF is given. The range given for the 3:31 equipped pick-up under normal driving conditions is: 7100 - 9600 miles. The range given for 3:55 equipped pick-up is 5800 - 8100 miles.
4x4ord 07/19/16 11:21pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 PSD numbers are in FLT Offical ?

The sound you just heard was the air being let out of the sails of all the Ford fans who were sure it would come in at 500/1000. "My cousin's, neighbor's, ex-room-mate's, boyfriend assured me it would likely be 500/1000". Yep, I was a little disappointed. If the 65 lb ft of torque would have been delivered from 1600 all the way up I would have been satisfied.
4x4ord 07/19/16 07:52pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2017 PSD numbers are in FLT Offical ?

Towing just got easier Fish, towing should already be easy for you, the TT at 11,000# GVWR, would hardly make my 2001 Ram break a sweat (going uphill)! What will be entertaining in the next couple years is who with be the first to claim 500/1,000!!! No, what's going to be entertaining is all these blue bleeders getting new trucks that think everything is about HP are going to be going WOW when they gain 65 lbft of torque and no more HP and can't believe how much better the new truck handles the weight. If Ford puts the extra torque in the right place it will feel like a 100 more HP. :B Assuming the 65 lb ft of additional torque above the 2016 Powerstroke is at 1600 rpm, it will produce 20 more HP at 1600 rpm and as the engine revs the advantage will become less apparent.
4x4ord 07/19/16 07:43pm Tow Vehicles
RE: 2016 Ford 250, 350 Super Duty

We had a 2010 Duramax and 2011 F350. We traded them in on two 2016 F350's. The 2016 has a much better exhaust brake but the '11 did better on fuel. If I could do it again I would have got King Ranches with the 3:31 gears instead of the Platinums with the 3:55's. The 3:31 gets much better fuel economy. (I believe it is tuned different, because the rpm difference that the two trucks run at is minimal .... 3:31 with 18' rims vs the 3:55 with 20's.)
4x4ord 07/18/16 02:05pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

Man our 2003 Dodge with 235 HP and 460 pounds of torque is a mere go-kart when compared to the new diesels. However it does get around 20 mpg unloaded and 14 pulling our 2 horse trailer. It will even get us (slowly) to the top of any Mt. pass in the USA. Your '03 is an incredible truck, especially when you look back 14 years further to a 1989 Dodge/Cummins turning out 160 HP and 400 lb ft of torque. (I remember the magazine articles describing 400 lb ft of torque as "gobs of torque") Moving ahead 14 years from your '03 to the 2017 Ford introduces a change which is just as dramatic. (the new trucks have air conditioned massage seats, panoramic roof, trailer tire air pressure monitoring and 1000 lb ft of torque) I'm sure the newly designed Ram which is rumored to be revealed in 2019 will be every bit, if not more, phenomenal.
4x4ord 07/13/16 04:13pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

Wait to you trade that '15 Duramax in on a 2017 Ford and experience 500 ponies chomping at the bit.??
4x4ord 07/13/16 09:04am Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

Funny then that there are no "big mileage low power chips out there eh?' Lowering the power by reducing the the fuel delivery will most likely cause the engine to produce less horsepower hours per gallon. If you don't need the power then lowering the power by reducing the engine size will gain you fuel efficiency. Edit: A turbo diesel engine can effectively be made smaller and more fuel efficient by increasing the compression ratio, reducing the size of the turbo and leaving the displacement alone. A 210 HP 7.3 is designed to pump much less air and is therefore a much smaller engine than a 500 HP 6.7 turbo diesel engine. I would expect the Ford 7.3 to be able to get better fuel economy pulling a small 5th wheel than the new 6.7 would get pulling the same trailer....especially if the 7.3 had a modern high pressure common rail computerized fuel system installed.
4x4ord 07/12/16 05:18pm Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

What is all the angst about mpg? Thats the drivers responsibility ,do you want the mpg of your old 7.3 ? then only use 1/2 throttle all the time . fuel burn is the only thing you have complete control over. except regens and 1/2 throttle use will make them happen less often. Engines tend to produce their highest power per fuel ratio when they are run at wide open throttle and pulled down to the rpm where the engine produces it's peak torque value. So if an RVer has a unit that requires 130 HP to move it down the highway at 70 mph, he should get significantly better fuel economy pulling with a 4 litre diesel engine that produces 500 lb ft of torque at 1600 rpm than he would pulling it with a 6.7 litre engine that is capable of 1000 lb ft of torque at 1600 rpm and then backing the throttle way off.
4x4ord 07/12/16 11:15am Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

Assuming the new Ford does put out nearly 500 HP, do you think GM will fold or will they release an even higher figure when their new Duramax is introduced soon? Only if there is a MAJOR tranny upgrade. The Ally 1000 is at its limits. Chris Speculation has it the Duramax will be 425 HP and 860 Torque. People with smaller trailers might be choosing a GM for fuel economy. Those with very heavy trailers going to Ford. And those who think if it aint a Cummins it aint Diesel will stick with the Ram.
4x4ord 07/12/16 07:45am Tow Vehicles
RE: Care to guess the new Powerstroke HP and torque rating?

Assuming the new Ford does put out nearly 500 HP, do you think GM will fold or will they release an even higher figure when their new Duramax is introduced soon?
4x4ord 07/12/16 06:46am Tow Vehicles
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