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RE: Rotating Dually Tires
I rotate mine but not a traditional rotate. I don't rotate front to rears. I just change the front left to the right front and right front to the left front. On the rear both tires from the left side go on the right side and both right rears go to the left rear. That is all I have done on my Ford duallys for a number of years.
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Butch50
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08/03/09 01:07pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: DIfferent tire size on 5Th wheel
Hate to disagree with you but ST(special trailer) tires are rated to a max of 62MPH and are basically JUNK. Go out and buy a set of LT235R16 tires and never look back. Most of the heavy fivers manufactured today are factory equipped with LT tires not the ST junkers. Simply do a search on the forums here for many many discussions on this subject.
I agree with you, go to the LT tires. You are running 6,000# axles and the LT235/85r/16 have all the capacity you need. If you think you want more capacity you can go to the "G rated LT235/85/R16 and have a capacity of 3750# per tire. Now you would most likely have to change rims also for the 110# PSI of the "G" rated tire.
Like donn said most of the heavier 5ers today come with LT tires on them. My last Excel had the LT235/85R/16 range "G" on them and my present one does also.
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Butch50
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07/29/09 09:01am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: How does a TPMS prevent a blowout?
My Doran TPMS won't prevent a blow out but if I do have one it will tell me about it so I don't continue pulling the 5er down the road with a flat and destroy the 5er with flying tire parts. As soon as my system senses a total failure it goes into to alarm unlike others folks you hear about that have towed it for many miles because they had no idea that a tire had blown.
I wouldn't be without one again after seeing how well they work.
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Butch50
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07/28/09 10:05pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: What would you buy.
Rapture74, first off welcome to the forum.
Just to pre warn you that some of these campers you mentioned can even push the capabilities of a F350 dually. I have an Arctic Fox 1140 and I weighed my truck before and after I put my camper on new. The only thing that was in the camper was propane and it weighed almost 4700#. So as you can see by the time I load it with 56 gallons of water (465#) and clothes and food and BEER Can't forget the beer. I'll most likely be pushing 5700 to 6000#. This would be a load on a 1 ton dually. I have it on my F550, it is not much of a load for it as I have about 4000# reserve capacity before loading to the capacity of my truck.:B On Arctic Fox web site they show my camper is over 4000# dry before adding any options. If you add AC that adds almost 100# and on you go from there.
Good Luck
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Butch50
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07/27/09 08:30am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Cardinal Wife Wants is Too Heavy!!
Good info Butch...may I add that the DRW does handle a higher pin weight.
Thanks,
That is why I put in the statement "Now granted a SRW will most likely run over the GVWR with this big of a 5er." I have no doubt in my mind that a 3500 SRW would be over the GVWR of the truck with most 5ers that are in the 16,900# range.
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Butch50
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07/26/09 10:47pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Cardinal Wife Wants is Too Heavy!!
jetboater454,
Nope sorry, the F350 (in the 1 ton dually range) has the highest GCWR of 26,000#. I have checked on the Dodges and they do not exceeded the capacity of the Ford.
Take look here For a QC 160" WB 4X4 SLT you will see that the 16,900# towing capacity is for the SRW 3500 and the dually is 16,500 max trailer towing and both have a max GCWR of 24,000#. The SRW actually has a higher towing capacity because of the single rear tires. The truck is lighter without the dual tires and that is the reason. Now granted a SRW will most likely run over the GVWR with this big of a 5er. This is for a 5er and not a bumper tow. All of the above is for a SLT Quad Cab with 4.10 rear axle 4X4.
If you have a GCWR of 24,000# and you are allowed to tow a 5er that weighs 21,500# max that would mean your truck could only weigh 2500#. Now both you and I know your truck weighs a lot more than that. More likely in the 8,000# range.
My trailer is a 17,500# GVWR and that is the reason I have a F550 is because to be within the specs of the manufacturers that is what I needed. Now I could have gotten by with a F450 but decided to go to the F550.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/26/09 10:30pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Cardinal Wife Wants is Too Heavy!!
Why can't your dually pull that? I have an '08 3500 Dodge dually that can pull 21500#. But you can never pass up a new truck.Is that the hitch weight?
I don't know of any Dodge 3500 that is rated to pull a 21500# trailer. I have a Ford F550 and I'm only rated at 24,500# 5er. From the Dodge web site the 3500 is rated at 17,000# capacity. This would be on a truck with no added options. I beleive the 2009 Dodge is rated at max GCWR of 24,000#, that would mean your truck could only weigh 2500#. I don't want to be argumentive but I think you have your figures wrong. I have a 2006 3500 Dodge also and it is rated for GCWR of 23,000#.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/26/09 05:53pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Can I ?
Wow, Folks this thread has been dead for almost a year now. It only got started back up by 400excracer who opened up 3 old posts just so he could make a comment about someone elses comments about Toyota trucks. The OP (madvetos) only made a few post and they were all on 10/18/08 and has never posted again since then. I really doubt that the OP is even looking for any advice anymore.
Why don't we let this one die a graceful death ;)
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Butch50
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07/25/09 04:36pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Filling Propane
They will need to be removed and taken to a place that fills propane bottles. They will be put on scales to be weighed so not to be overfilled.I have never seen them weigh a propane cylinder. This must be for certain states only.
Standard practice for the "portable" cylinders (5 lb, 20, 30, etc.) A balance beam-platform scale is usually found right by the fill station. The empty weight of each sized cylinder is a known quantity, weight of a gal. of propane is a known quantity. The cylinder is filled to 80% of the tank's capacity. When the weight of that 80% fill quantity is reached,while the tank is on the scale beam "balances" and the operator shuts the pump off, closes the tank valve, purges the fill hose, & Voila! Horizontal, fixed mount tanks, such as those in motorhomes are obviously weighed when filled. The tank plumbing is different, as is the fill procedure.
Everywhere I have been in California the dial gauge displays the number of gallons dispensed. You pay by the gallon.
How would you fill permanent tanks in a MH or propane truck? Weigh the entire truck?
Forgive me Pop. I left out "not" in the sentence I wrote regarding filling of an LP tank on a motorhome and how they are obviously NOT weighed. And for everyone else that jumped my butt about weighing portable tanks when filling: Yes, the fuel is dispensed from a metered pump. Maybe weighing the tank is old technology, but I want to know I have the appropriate vapor space in the tank so the safety device functions properly if needed,instead of the tank spewing liquid. If the tank is filled w/ liquid top to bottom and vents, a given volume of liquid expands in a gas state to a volume 270X the volume it occupies as a liquid. If that little old cloud is within its flammable limits when it finds an ignition source and you're standing in it............... As for transporting a vertical cylinder horizontally; the operation of the safety device on the valve is predicated on the tank being in a vertical position. I don't pretend to be smarter than the engineer that designed it, but hey, this is America...........................
You asked "If you're bringing a partially filled tank, how do you determine what's in the tank before filling if it's not weighed?" What difference does it make? If they are using a meter and they hook up and open the vent and turn on the pump they will measure the gallons and tenths of gallons going into the tank before it starts spitting liquid out the vent. You can only put in so mmuch gas before it spits out the vent and the meter will measure that amount. The vent tube is set up to only allow 80% full before it spits liquid gas out. When liquid spits you are at 80% and this 20% headway allows you propane gas to turn to liquid before it goes to your regulator.
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Butch50
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07/25/09 10:23am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Question for Toyota Tundra + TC owners
Shouldn't this be in Tow Vehicles Forum - oh wait, a toyota doesn't belong there either...Keep your political "Be Amercan, Buy American******out of here! Dont play holyer than thou when over 50% of everything in your house is made on China or some other country. Where was your TV made Mr Buy American. I would buy American if they made a vehicle with the quality of my Toyotas. People would have never bought Toyotas in the firrst place if GM, Ford, and Dodge would have built a superior product. People buy Toyotas and Hondas because they are sick of getting screwed buy American manufacturers. Buy whatever you want, but dont tell me that I am less of an American because I drive a Toyota.
Wow, new member and you brought this back up from 3 months ago just so you could bust someones chops. 3 post and all of them you have dug up from the past to bust someone. One almost a year dead. I think you need to let some of these threads just RIP and not dredge them back up. Seems like you just want to start an argument all over again.
Oh and by the way I have owned a Toyota Taco, a 2005 but it just didn't do what I needed so traded it off. Good little truck and was fun to drive with the 4.0.
And this is IMO;)
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Butch50
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07/25/09 09:47am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Loaded alone for the first time!!! DUH!
I think the reason you are finding your duals touching is that the tires are oversized. If I remember right my 2002 Dmax/Allison 3500 dually had stock tire size of 215 75R 16. They might have been 85R but I'm thinking 75R. The wider tires are probably the reason for the kiss between them. Recommend you check the tag on your door panel for the correcct size and put them on. As stated by others you don't want your duals touching.
This is IMO
ON EDIT: I looked at the GMC site for 2009 and the tires for a dually are 225/75R/17E tires. Over your GVWR by 500#
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Butch50
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07/25/09 08:50am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Noise from hot water line
Just had a similar experience with what I referred to as the water heater "singing" when water was running. Turned out to be the check valve on the water heater a relatively inexpensive part and simple to fix. Its worth checking.
Ditto, had that happen to me also. The worst part of the singing is it was off key. ;)
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Butch50
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07/24/09 07:57am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Charging Batteries
Thanks everyone, I figured it would be ok. The batteries are only about 4 months or so old and have never been discharged to any amount. The gaarage never freezes either even though we live in MT where the batteries will be stored.
PS You got me there I don't know why I was using the Ah instead of just 1.25A.:)
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Butch50
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07/23/09 12:10pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Charging Batteries
Thanks for the responses guys.
I would probably be keeping the batteries in storage (in my garage) for 7 to 9 months possibly longer depends on the length of job I'm considering going on. My wife would still be here to keep an eye on them (minus the time she would come and spend with me).
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Butch50
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07/23/09 10:21am |
Truck Campers
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Charging Batteries
Ok all of you battery experts out there I have a question for all of you. I need to take my batteries out of my camper and store them for a long period of time. The are grp27 12V deep cycles. Now the question I want to use a Deltran Battery Tender Super Smart charger on them. I would leave the batteries connected in parallel and hook the tender to the positive on one and the negative on the other. The charger only has an output of 1.25Ah. I would start out with fully charged batteries and just want to maintain a float on them for a long period. I use one of these battery chargers on my Harley and it maintains the battery at full charge shutting on and off to keep a float charge. Would this small of a system work on my deep cycle batteries? I really don't want to purchase the bigger Smart Tender or another smaller one as I already have 2 of these smaller models. One is presently on the Harley and the other just sitting around collection dust.
Think it will work or should I just break down and buy another 1.25Ah and put one on each battery or buy the bigger one that puts out 5Ah and leave the batteries connected in parallel?
Thanks
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Butch50
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07/23/09 09:26am |
Truck Campers
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RE: Tow into primitive areas - best equipment
I think if you are going with the trailer with a camper I would go to a gooseneck setup and not the 5th wheel setup. You would probable get much better articulation from it than the 5er setup and probably a lot stronger. Never have to worry about getting to close to the cab like a 5er if in a tight situation and trying to turn the trailer around in tight quarters. Also would be able to back the trailer off the side of the road and then get the tow rig around the other side and rehitch from the other side easier than the 5er. I know you can do this with a 5er hitch also but it just seems that it would be easier with the gooseneck setup.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/22/09 01:48pm |
Tow Vehicles
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RE: Hail Damage and Insurance
Man oh man I feel for you. I lived in CO for almost 30 years and my wife is a native so we been through some of those hail storms also but I have never had the damage that you have. On our MH we only lost vent cover on one. did have to have oour shingles replaced twice because of the hail. It looks like the Dometic windows and the Heiki escape hatch came through ok but the rest is a mess. Good luck with your insurance. I would be calling the claims dept right away as I'm sure they are going to be flooded with calls.
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Butch50
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07/21/09 12:55pm |
Truck Campers
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RE: Water Heater
When you use the water heater on electric the heating element is only about 600 watts. Depending on the temperature of the water going into the tank it can take quite awhile before the water gets heated up. If you are in a hurry for hot water when you first get to the campsite turn it on propane and after it is heated up switch over to electric. Propane is much faster at heating then the little electric heating element. It could need cleaning out also. That never hurts and its good for your health also to have a clean water supply.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/20/09 12:30pm |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Pulliam/Pullrite 24K SuperGlide ALTERNATIVE
JasonBlu, first welcome to the forum.
What kind of 5er are you planning on pulling that you need 24K hitch? There isn't a 250/2500 or 350/3500 truck on the market rated to pull a 24K 5er. I have a F550 (this is 2 sizes bigger than the F350 DRW) and my truck is only rated at around 24,000# 5er weight. The largest 5er I pulled with it was 20,000# GVWR 5er and my combined weight was just over 30,000# GCWR with a truck rated for 33,000 GCWR. The biggest 350/3500 is only rated a 26,000# GCWR. This is the weight of the truck and the trailer combined. Most people on here do not consider the 250/2500 or 350/3500 large type trucks. If you are talking large size then take a look at the signature of some of the posters on her. They are towing with converted semi tractors or MDT sized toters. These are considered larger size trucks.
Some poster on here have already stated what I just asked. If you want to spend the amount of money to buy a hitch way larger than what the truck is rated for that is up to you but it would be better to try to rate the hitch with the trucks capabilities and not waste money on something you shouldn't need.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/19/09 10:03am |
Fifth-Wheels
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RE: Boy was I impressed!
It looks like the 5er is worth about $20k - 25K based on NADA. I think the truck (1999) might be worth $25 - $30K. They probably want enough for their rig to pay for a new one.
Kind where I figured the price to be also. Seems quite high to me. Might have to give extra for the condition but I don''t think $30,000 to $40,000 more, almost doubling the price in this day and age won't sell an RV.
This is IMO
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Butch50
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07/16/09 12:14pm |
General RVing Issues
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